Episode 76 – Cody Cresswell & Brandon Callies

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Brandon Adams
Hey, everybody. For the first time ever, we have a live music performance. This time, Cody Cresswell lost on a bar stool.

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Cody Cresswell
This one’s called Lost on a Barstool.

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[Cody Cresswell performs Lost on a Barstool.]

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Brandon Adams
Hey, everybody, welcome back to The Blueprint. Today I’ve got Cody Cresswell and Brandon Callies, singer songwriters. They’re going to tell us a little bit about what’s going on in East Texas and beyond. So stay tuned and we’re going to hear some insights. Also, if you guys could do me a favor and just make sure that you hit that button below, it’s going to help me get a lot more of these stories out.

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Brandon Adams
I’m trying to get them in front of you and you in front of them, and maybe there’s a connection, so stay tuned. Thank you, gentlemen, for coming today. I really appreciate y’all, jumping on the show.

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Cody Cresswell
Yeah. Glad to be here, man.

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Brandon Callies
Yeah, I’m happy to be here.

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Brandon Adams
Yeah. Awesome. Well, first off, I know I got two guests on here. Normally have just one. Sometimes I’ve had two, sometimes I’ve had three. But it seems to be every time that you’re around, I get repeat offender, I get, I get a little extra. So I appreciate that. It’s cool to kind of get both sides of a story or two sides of a coin.

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Brandon Adams
So I just kind of want to hear a little bit about you guys, like, where you’re from. You know, where you born and raised, you East Texas guys, what’s going on?

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Cody Cresswell
Yeah. What’s most so. So yeah, I actually grew up in Caddo. So, this little street used to be just vacant. All these little lots that were on here, you know, except paint. Supermarket. Yeah. So, yeah, I grew up out here, and I never really, did too much. I’ll just be bopped around and got a soda pop at paint supermarket.

00:04:30:10 – 00:04:43:00
Cody Cresswell
Used to be over here all the time. And that’s really about it for me. Just cattle mules. I was born in Mesquite. I think we moved out here. I was eight. Yeah, and then graduated from here and live in Greenville now, so I haven’t really gone too far.

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Brandon Adams
Was the Army like, you got brothers? Sisters? Yeah. Yeah.

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Cody Cresswell
So I got two sisters. Two little sisters. I got an older brother, a little sister over in California. And then my other sister still live here in Caddo. Okay. And then my brother is in North Carolina now, so. Okay. Kind of spread out a little bit.

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Brandon Adams
Going into school. You said you went to Caddo schools. You and the music program, or you thought you were going to be a hooper or. I mean, you’re a tall guy.

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Cody Cresswell
So literally just that there was a basketball that was, well, never did anything with music. My brother was in band. My mom sang a little bit, a little Opry that’s right down here. Okay. Every now and then. But other than that, I was just, you know, sports, basketball. Hanging out. Friends didn’t really do anything with music at all.

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Brandon Adams
Are you good? That was all right.

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Cody Cresswell
Yeah, yeah. Nothing special.

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Brandon Adams
Did you throw any dunks down there?

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Cody Cresswell
Yeah. By the time I was about a junior, I could finally, you know, start dunking a little bit.

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Brandon Adams
That’s a moment, to be quite honest. Like a lot of times a smack a tennis ball off the back of the rim. And that one moment you get over the top. That’s that’s a good deal.

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Cody Cresswell
Yeah.

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Brandon Callies
But you can just reach up and not anymore.

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Cody Cresswell
And I don’t think I could go dunk right now at all. I don’t think there’s a chance it goes.

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Brandon Adams
Away really.

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Cody Cresswell
Quick. It does. Yeah. Does. You get lazy and then you’re just. Yeah it’s gone I’m.

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Brandon Adams
Brian you’re back on the show again. So if you want to kind of give a recap of kind of where you’re from and what you’re doing for the people who haven’t seen the last episode.

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Brandon Callies
Yeah, yeah. Born in Greenville, Texas.

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Brandon Adams
Hey, hey, yeah, it say it. Say like you’re from there.

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Brandon Callies
Greenville. There you go. Greenville, Texas. Greenville. Yeah. Moved. Moved away. And lived in Austin for about 14 years. Okay. Came back here during Covid because everything shut down.

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Brandon Adams
So.

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Brandon Callies
Sold my house and and came back here and lived here. Live here. And that’s where I met Matt Cody and all kinds of cool people.

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Brandon Adams
And you’re married currently? Yep. Yeah. You got two kids.

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Brandon Callies
That is the reason I have a stepdaughter. Okay. The whole reason I am here, because I had a house in Austin when the world shut down. I mean, every source of income I had was completely gone. So just lucked into, my wife and I had been sort of having this long distance relationship for a year. And she had a house here in Rye City.

00:06:51:23 – 00:07:00:06
Brandon Callies
And so. And I decided I was going to move. I just said, hey, maybe this is a good time to join forces. And, you know, so I kind of lucked out with that.

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Brandon Adams
You know, we think about, like, all of our daily jobs and what we’re going through every day, like, how old are you? And when Covid came through.

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Cody Cresswell
Who it was at like six years ago, 26.

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Brandon Adams
Yeah. So as we’re going through this, we’re thinking about our daily lives and like what’s work like, you know, everybody’s like, oh, I can work from home or I can do this, or maybe I can restructure my job to where I can, you know, still, you know, keep an income coming in, an entertainer in front of a group of people.

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Cody Cresswell
Oh, yeah. It’s gone.

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Brandon Adams
Completely gone. Like what did what did the world do during this time for entertainers like, did you guys go to, TikTok or do you guys go to a live video? Like, what happens?

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Cody Cresswell
There’s a lot of those, like Facebook Live streams. Yeah, I did several of those. My buddy Layne Hunt, we went to a friend’s house a couple times. We just set up in their shop, live stream it on Facebook, slapped the Venmo on there or whatever. You know, we did a few of those.

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Brandon Adams
And then I was just like, hey, Chip, and help us keep it going. Yeah.

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Cody Cresswell
Very much. That’s cool. You go in a friend’s house and doing that, I don’t I can’t recall any places that were still doing gigs. During that time. And they were you know a lot of people were getting in that said about it.

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Brandon Callies
So I did one of those, I had this weird right when I was about to put out an album, Covid hit and everything shut down. And so the album just got stalled out, you know, for a long duration of time, which just made me go into my head. And, you know, I do art, so I create all the packaging was, you know, so it just got insanely involved.

00:08:29:16 – 00:08:38:11
Brandon Callies
And then finally I just went, I need to put this out. And, did that. I think that was one of the only live streams that I did was kind of an album release thing.

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Brandon Adams
Was there kind of a shift in kind of what everybody did at that time? Because like, you went from, hey, man, I’ve been building this, piece or telling this story for x amount of time that I’d have to get out in front of everybody. Now that I don’t have anybody to talk to you right now. Like, did all you guys kind of turn inward in, like, reevaluate your craft and try to get better at the things you’re doing and like, and I need to write some more songs, or I need to get back into who I am and kind of self-reflect, like, how did life change and did that taking that time off?

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Brandon Adams
Did that really impact you as a as a creator?

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Brandon Callies
I can only answer for myself, and I don’t know if you have an answer for that, but it didn’t. It was strange in this area. It didn’t really affect me all that much. I stayed really busy. And it was predominantly in Dallas. I mean, right when I decided, that I was going to move here, there’s this place in Dallas called Sundown at Granada.

00:09:33:13 – 00:10:00:21
Brandon Callies
Had started doing these outdoor patio shows, and so they were the first, at least to my knowledge, that was doing that kind of thing where they were, you know, spreading. Yeah, spreading people out on this patio. And then I was on this stage that was backed up to the, the street. And, so I started doing that and what it seemed like and, I don’t know, maybe other places are doing it, but it seemed like it just sort of caught fire.

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Brandon Callies
And because I was advertising these outdoor shows, you know, I don’t want to say that I became the poster boy for that. But people knew it was happening. So they started hiring me. Okay. To do them. So, I mean, I stayed incredibly busy doing, you know, these outdoor, shows during that time.

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Brandon Adams
Hello. Was the time from the, the shutdown to where this kind of picked up. Is it couple of months? Is it three months? Four years?

00:10:26:11 – 00:10:49:00
Brandon Callies
Yeah, I would say closer. Probably about 5 or 6 months, because, you know, when I was in Austin, I sort of took that downtime to sort of focus on getting the record finished and together, you know, and then, when I moved here, I already had my first show on the books at at sundown. I got on it and just kind of took off.

00:10:49:02 – 00:10:51:09
Brandon Adams
But you go to.

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Cody Cresswell
So Covid was about the time that I had really just started playing like shows and gigs. So I really didn’t do too much to me. I’m sure for some people, you know, killed there’s probably a lot of momentum that was killed. But I just took advantage of it. And I remember being in an apartment over at Farwell and just cooped up, and I wrote a lot of songs.

00:11:10:15 – 00:11:25:16
Cody Cresswell
So, like a lot of the songs that are on the EP that I had like Wicked World out right now, that was, you know, a lot of that was written and that I’ve written in that apartment during Covid. But it didn’t really affect me too much. I was, I was just, you know, I was doing door knocking sales at times, so I couldn’t do that anymore.

00:11:25:16 – 00:11:31:15
Cody Cresswell
So, you know, I just got an unemployment check and then I sang and played with I, you know, wrote some songs. Really?

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Brandon Adams
Yeah, yeah. Did the isolation change the way you were writing songs? Did that go from, you know, you weren’t singing party in the USA anymore? You can. Do you want to.

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Cody Cresswell
Say more said thing? Yeah, maybe a little bit. I’ve kind of always tended to write that way. So I’ve, I don’t know how much it really changed it. Being isolated is just kind of always been my writing style. I got a couple a couple songs. I guess they’re a little little happier, I guess. Vibes. But for the most part, you know, I’ve always kind of had that angsty, kind of depressing writing style.

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Cody Cresswell
Okay. So I don’t, I don’t know, really know how much Covid messed with me because I wasn’t full fledged into the entertainment and and music thing quite yet. Okay. It just gave me a chance to kind of coop out and write some songs and look back at it.

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Brandon Adams
Yeah. As you were coming out of college, I mean, out of high school rethinking, need to go to college. I need, take this avenue. Was that even a direction you wanted to take, or. I need to get right to work.

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Cody Cresswell
Now, it was, I think my senior year, I basically realized I wasn’t going to college, so I barely got out of out of the high school thing. I just knew I was going to college. I was going to work. So I did that. And then I had, like, a little, phase in my life where I kind of just floated around.

00:12:44:10 – 00:12:56:21
Cody Cresswell
I didn’t really know what I was going to do. I just hung out with friends. Probably drank a little too much, did a lot of partying. And in that process, I picked up a guitar and started learning how to do that.

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Brandon Adams
So somebody pushed the guitar on you or they just you, you stepped into one. You’re it. You wake up on the couch after a long night of throwing a few back and you’re like, look over, there’s a guitar. I’ve always wanted to do that. How do you how did you come across it?

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Cody Cresswell
My, the first time I got a guitar was night for my grandma. So she had a, There’s a Keith Urban infomercial. There’s a light, the fuze, you know, real cheap, like, $200 acoustic guitar. So she bought that? She bought one for her and one for my grandpa. And his is a lefty, so his has never been able to be used again, unfortunately.

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Cody Cresswell
But, she realized she had arthritis real bad in her hand. She couldn’t play it. So, she asked if I wanted it, and I said what? She asked if I wanted it. I was expecting her to just give it to him that she needed buy it from her, which is fine. You about your first guitar? Yeah. So, I bought that from her, and I didn’t tell anybody I was doing it, but I used to go to, to Sweetwater and all those things.

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Cody Cresswell
And Zach Romo was up there playing, and, Michael Summers, you know, a lot of guys I’m friends with now, but I would see them playing. I just wanted to do that for some reason. I was around my mom a lot. She was managing Taylor Dee at the time. She’s passed away since, and, so I was around that a lot.

00:14:04:05 – 00:14:12:18
Cody Cresswell
And we went to, you know, I went to shows. I think I was the first person actually had me open a show with Taylor Dee. And that’s just, I mean, it kind of just spitball from there.

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Brandon Adams
And I’ll just say this, never been in the music scene. I mean, I love music, it’s very influential in my life. I’ve never picked up one instrument. Outside of that one I just put up right there. But, yeah. What’s the difference between a left handed and a right handed guitar? Is it the shape of the bottom or.

00:14:28:24 – 00:14:30:00
Brandon Adams
Well, it’s a way the.

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Cody Cresswell
Flipped over, I guess.

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Brandon Callies
Yeah. I mean the, the it’s just a different set up. The bridge is different on it. The nut is different. And then your strings, you know, it’s just, it’s a completely I mean, people can’t you, can.

00:14:48:20 – 00:14:49:05
Cody Cresswell
You flip.

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Brandon Callies
That up down, I.

00:14:50:22 – 00:14:51:05
Cody Cresswell
Guess.

00:14:51:10 – 00:14:59:21
Brandon Callies
Yeah. And we’ve got a buddy. My buddy Paco does that. He’ll buy right handed guitars and just completely sort of reset them up.

00:14:59:21 – 00:15:15:11
Brandon Adams
Yeah. For all you people out there that hated me for asking that question. Sorry, but there’s. Maybe it’s just like me out there. The big string is bass, I guess, and the small one is what? Where where are we at here? Like, give me, give me the directions on this because I know I sound like a fool right now, but this is for me, really, truly.

00:15:15:11 – 00:15:19:09
Brandon Callies
It goes from octave to octave. So it’s it’s you have a low E.

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Cody Cresswell
Is a technical question.

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Brandon Callies
Low E and then a high E. So it’s the same note but an octave of the same note, six strings. So the that low and and.

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Brandon Adams
Number top.

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Brandon Callies
The the the bottom one as I’m referring is the low one up top. Okay. And then the, the low, the bottom.

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Cody Cresswell
I got it all sounds backwards.

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Brandon Adams
I get what you’re saying. So you’re saying bottom is furthest away from the flat part of your hand. It’s actually closer to your chest. But it’s I.

00:15:48:13 – 00:15:54:08
Brandon Callies
Say bottom as in like the one that if you’re looking at the neck of the guitar, the one that is down here. Yeah.

00:15:54:08 – 00:15:59:13
Brandon Adams
So okay, so the high the the highest pitches here in the lowest pitches here.

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Brandon Callies
No, the highest is down here.

00:16:00:23 – 00:16:05:16
Cody Cresswell
So it’s gonna be the highest string has the lowest pitch and just kind of gets higher as you go down. Yeah.

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Brandon Adams
Oh sorry. I screwed that up for everybody, but, I got it. So those those are reversed on another, on the left hand, right on the guitar. And then the shape of it is, is, it’s.

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Brandon Callies
The same for, for a left handed player it would be the same. But as a right handed player, if you were to take that guitar and flip.

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Brandon Adams
It.

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Brandon Callies
Now you’re at the opposite and you can’t, you know, the way you would form chords would be completely.

00:16:29:08 – 00:16:30:12
Cody Cresswell
Shot. All right, I’m back.

00:16:30:12 – 00:16:51:10
Brandon Adams
At it now. Yeah. What’s cool like, I honestly like like understanding. Like how you go through your craft and how you learn through it because everything’s about memory and where it is. Right? So you’re learning the form as you go through this, so you understand from your guitar to your guitar, they could be completely set up differently, not left handed to right handed, but the way you like to set it up the right way it feels.

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Brandon Adams
Is that.

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Brandon Callies
Correct. Yeah. Absolutely.

00:16:53:05 – 00:17:02:23
Brandon Adams
Okay. And give me the difference. Like why would someone set it up differently from like what are the set up. Could it be the strings are tighter or looser or like what what is the difference.

00:17:02:23 – 00:17:10:02
Brandon Callies
It’s predominantly an action. People are particular about that. Usually you’re wanting.

00:17:10:04 – 00:17:11:08
Cody Cresswell
Like how close the strings, how.

00:17:11:08 – 00:17:32:20
Brandon Callies
Close the strings are to the neck of the of the guitar. Okay. So, you know, the higher those strings raise off of that neck, the more difficult it is to play. If you get a little too low, you get some buzz and some rattle. Also, if you’re heavy handed, then it’s easier to sort of bend strings out of tune.

00:17:32:22 – 00:17:33:12
Brandon Adams
Okay.

00:17:33:14 – 00:17:56:13
Brandon Callies
Usually guys that do a lot of lead work, you know, Niels and you know them, you know, they’re wanting the action on those guitars to be low, to make it super easy just to rip. You know, go, go all over the place and, you know, people, you know, singer songwriters that aren’t really doing that kind of thing are, you know, you can have a little higher action, okay.

00:17:56:14 – 00:17:59:04
Brandon Callies
And you’re not worried about fret buzz and any of that kind of stuff.

00:17:59:07 – 00:18:08:12
Brandon Adams
Okay. When you say that, you say an a singer songwriter is more about melody in the tune, in the message, as opposed to the technicality of what I can do with it.

00:18:08:14 – 00:18:24:21
Brandon Callies
Yeah. I mean, most of what you’re singing, there are a lot of guys that, you know are amazing at guitar and write songs, but yeah, you know, in the traditional sense, you’re looking at a singer songwriter, you’re thinking of a guy that’s playing chords on an acoustic guitar, you know?

00:18:24:23 – 00:18:26:10
Brandon Adams
Yeah, like like this guy.

00:18:26:10 – 00:18:55:18
Brandon Callies
I pointed at this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, that’s that’s really sort of the nucleus and that’s what you need just to be able to, you know, somebody like Cody is going to be more, focused on Melody, vocal melody and a story. That’s that’s what he’s looking at, you know, to, to put into the world and leave, leave that other side of things to, you know, somebody that’s really focused on pros.

00:18:55:20 – 00:18:58:08
Brandon Callies
Yeah. Doing that. They have spent their life.

00:18:58:08 – 00:18:59:07
Brandon Adams
Crafting, you know, learning.

00:18:59:07 – 00:19:02:01
Brandon Callies
How to play super fast and you know, do all that.

00:19:02:07 – 00:19:22:22
Brandon Adams
That’s really cool. Honestly, if you think about it, like there’s a lot of effort that people are devoting into their craft, you know, and that’s why people come together as a band in general. And I’m not telling anybody anything, anyone to already know. But as you think about the person that’s songwriting, they’re they’re they’re telling the story. They’re spending time on the lyrics they’re going through in the melody and everything else.

00:19:22:24 – 00:19:32:07
Brandon Adams
Is it generally that person that pitches it to the band and says, let me tell you what I’m thinking. And somebody riffs in and goes, oh, I’d love to add a piece to this or yeah.

00:19:32:09 – 00:19:44:20
Cody Cresswell
That much. Okay. In our experience, yeah, most of the time it’s I wrote something to kind of just bring it to bring it to them and they, they do their thing with it cause I don’t give him any direction on what he should be doing on the same thing with drums or guitar. Like, it’s not.

00:19:44:22 – 00:19:45:14
Brandon Adams
That’s interesting.

00:19:45:14 – 00:20:07:18
Cody Cresswell
It’s not my thing at all. And that they, they pretty much give me direction on, you know, what it’s supposed to, you know, the technicalities behind it and things like that. I couldn’t tell you, a drum pattern or anything of of that nature. I just, I write a song on an acoustic guitar, like, with the chords and and kind of bring it to these guys and they just take it to that next level, essentially.

00:20:07:20 – 00:20:28:13
Brandon Adams
Very interesting, because you’re looking at it from completely different things, you know, as you go in to bring a music together, if you’re looking for someone because you played with a couple different bands, right? If you’re looking for someone that you want to pair up with, he’s looking for somebody that can really run a guitar and do that thing that you’re talking about the technical side of, to really embellish on the things that he’s doing in the story.

00:20:28:15 – 00:20:31:02
Brandon Adams
What do you look for.

00:20:31:04 – 00:20:33:06
Brandon Callies
From the perspective of being a bass player.

00:20:33:10 – 00:20:44:11
Brandon Adams
Finding the person to match up with, like, if I’m looking for a singer songwriter, like, who do I how do I pick that person? Why do I and why do I pick that person to believe in?

00:20:44:13 – 00:20:45:09
Brandon Callies
Who’s going to pay me?

00:20:45:14 – 00:20:46:12
Brandon Adams
Oh.

00:20:46:14 – 00:20:49:05
Brandon Callies
I’ve done I gotta know. It’s I mean, it’s, let’s say.

00:20:49:05 – 00:20:50:05
Cody Cresswell
I like this question, I.

00:20:50:05 – 00:21:04:07
Brandon Callies
Joke, I joke, and it’s like, you know, partially I played it’s a lot of guys to, you know, for that reason I’ll get cold calls and, you know, somebody just needs a bass player. And I’ve never heard him. Yeah, but I mean, somebody that I’m going to invest time in, you know, like.

00:21:04:07 – 00:21:07:00
Brandon Adams
Because you called me to tell me about him. Yeah.

00:21:07:02 – 00:21:32:20
Brandon Callies
You know, somebody like Cody? Yeah. You know, I just, I look for somebody that can. Good melody, good stories. You know, somebody who’s cool to be around. Okay? You know, and so all those things together make me believe in somebody enough to where that sort of hired. Part of it is not really a driving factor, you know?

00:21:32:22 – 00:21:46:19
Brandon Callies
So, I mean, I, have always been very drawn to, his music since I first met him, you know, and like a lot of guys around here, there’s a lot of really talented singer songwriters in this area. You know.

00:21:46:19 – 00:21:54:10
Brandon Adams
When you say I was drawn to his music, what about his music? Was you’re like, this type of thing he does that nobody else does.

00:21:54:12 – 00:22:27:20
Brandon Callies
He’s really good at creating a narrative, that is, relatable to people with a very earnest voice. That was the first thing that I picked up on. I heard a song called Missing Home that he had put out, and I really dug that. But then I just started. He was one of the first people when I moved back to the area that I started seeing around a lot, and he’s got this very deep voice, sort of commanding voice.

00:22:27:20 – 00:22:42:19
Brandon Callies
You can’t mistake it. And so immediately, that was kind of what kept me coming around and going to watch him play and all that kind of stuff. But he, I don’t know how he figured out that I played bass. I don’t either.

00:22:42:22 – 00:22:43:08
Cody Cresswell
I really don’t.

00:22:43:08 – 00:22:44:08
Brandon Callies
Remember, but he.

00:22:44:11 – 00:22:45:12
Cody Cresswell
I think it might’ve been my mom.

00:22:45:18 – 00:22:50:24
Brandon Callies
Yeah. One day he he mentioned to me, you know, that he was looking for somebody, and so.

00:22:50:24 – 00:22:57:18
Brandon Adams
And so what was it about it about Brandon that, you know, you thought, okay, I can kind of I can kind of mix with this guy.

00:22:57:20 – 00:23:14:01
Cody Cresswell
Well, Brandon can he could play with any band that he wanted to, probably the entire world. So it was it was almost like a long shot shooting that question. But I just remember, it’s like we have fun with it. And that’s that’s the big thing. Like he said, just having a good time, be able to hang out and just having something that’s cool.

00:23:14:01 – 00:23:32:14
Cody Cresswell
We’re doing open mic at Native Station, I think is where I first met Brandon, and that’s when he kind of came up there and he would play and he he’s I really don’t remember how I figured out you played bass. Or who had maybe had heard you play bass with or how I even figured that out. I think maybe you had just mentioned it to my mom and she had question or asked you.

00:23:32:16 – 00:23:52:17
Cody Cresswell
So I had like an open date. And so Brandon was cool. Hang he a, you know, badass musician. And it was just kind of a shot in the dark asking if you want to play bass because I need a bass player. And, he played with us. And instantly when he played, you know, it was just like a whole different level of a bass player in general, just whole different level of musician on the stage.

00:23:52:17 – 00:24:01:18
Cody Cresswell
And I think he had said, you know, after one gig with me, he’s like, we’re going to change a few things here and we’re just going to get this kind of dialed in to where it needs to be. So, well.

00:24:01:18 – 00:24:40:03
Brandon Callies
That’s the big thing is like, you know, I think that the players that are in the band, I mean, they can really make or break something, you know, and you you’re doing yourself a disservice to not have, you know, the best guys that you can get at your disposal to get it better, gets your point across as a songwriter, if you have guys that understand what a song should sound like, you know, a lot of guys, you know, you have people that are good, you know, and, it’s not to say that the, the people that Cody was playing with were not good.

00:24:40:05 – 00:25:07:20
Brandon Callies
It’s just you have, people that understand, what a song, should be. And then you have people that play, very much to what they want. A song to be or they’re very focused on their part. Yeah. And my, in my opinion the best players are people that are going to do a service to the song and not just them.

00:25:07:22 – 00:25:25:11
Brandon Adams
You know, is it very validating as you hear people talk about stuff like this and you walk in and you have a, you meet people in there or somebody you want to ask about, you know, coming into, your band or playing with you. And they say, yes, and you feel like they’ve been around, they have this certain skill set.

00:25:25:11 – 00:25:41:12
Brandon Adams
They have something that you can learn from. Is it validating to the thing that you’re doing to go, maybe I got something. Some people are starting to kind of hook on to this thing. And, you know, I’m kind of leveling up. You know, when you start to see the people that are investing in you. It was.

00:25:41:14 – 00:25:59:12
Cody Cresswell
Not really. It was more almost terrifying, honestly. It kind of put pressure on me, you know, because when you’re when you’re going on a on a stage like that with the guys at that level, they kind of depend on you also not to, you know, mess it up. Yeah. So there’s, there’s a little bit of I feel like I put some pressure on me in a good way.

00:25:59:12 – 00:26:18:24
Cody Cresswell
You know, I got better. I set my room and I was just wearing the guitar out, you know, playing the clicks, doing whatever I could because I had an issue with staying in time. Sometimes. But honestly, it was more almost stressful and and terrifying at first. And after a couple shows, you know, playing with the guys that that play at that level, you know, it’s fun.

00:26:18:24 – 00:26:29:11
Cody Cresswell
It’s great. Yeah. And yeah, it does feel good. Kind of guess validating at this point, knowing that, I’m confident that when we go onto the stage, I have nothing to worry about at this point. You know, everybody’s going to do a great job.

00:26:29:13 – 00:26:47:16
Brandon Adams
What’s the what’s the setup when you go into a show, are you like super particular on like what the stage sounds like? Are you particular about, you know, how easy it is to get in and get set up and get out. Are you, do you have to have you know, I’ve seen I’ve seen guys have a, have to have a cooler, a whiskey or a cooler of beers in the sun.

00:26:47:16 – 00:27:05:23
Cody Cresswell
Yeah, a few Miller lights. I’m probably the one of the easiest guys. You can soundcheck as long as I can hear myself. I’m just like, yeah, let’s go. Okay. Load ins and then loading the load in as far as, like, when you go places in play. I like the places where we just don’t have a load anything, and that’s great.

00:27:06:00 – 00:27:11:22
Cody Cresswell
But I feel like as far as a soundcheck and and all those things, I’m pretty. I’m pretty easygoing. Just you, Miller lights. And I’m good to go.

00:27:12:03 – 00:27:17:24
Brandon Adams
Yeah. All the way through the show. How many songs you generally put on during one show? Ooh.

00:27:18:01 – 00:27:22:19
Cody Cresswell
Depends on the length of the set. I’m, say, like an average 90 minute set. What is that? 515?

00:27:22:20 – 00:27:23:17
Brandon Callies
Yeah, something like a.

00:27:23:17 – 00:27:24:21
Cody Cresswell
Song somewhere in that ballpark.

00:27:24:21 – 00:27:30:20
Brandon Adams
Yeah. Do you have any particulars that you have as well, when you’re trying to set up, when you’re walking in?

00:27:30:22 – 00:27:42:19
Brandon Callies
No, I mean, you know, we just we’ll kind of take whatever, you know, we we’re not very particular. We’ll play wherever bad sound systems, good sound systems. Yeah. You know, the idea.

00:27:42:19 – 00:27:44:14
Cody Cresswell
To plug a guitar in and I’m good to go.

00:27:44:15 – 00:28:04:22
Brandon Callies
Yeah. I mean, the idea at this point really is just like, whatever it’s going to take to get word out and get him in front of people that have never, never seen him, you know? So no, I don’t have any kind of particulars. I’m a little bit more of a prima donna when it comes to the soundcheck.

00:28:04:24 – 00:28:21:16
Brandon Callies
You know, I, I have to at least what I’m hearing back. I have to feel good about it. Just because it’s hard for me to then get out of my own way. Get out of my head. If I’m feeling like it’s not. Yeah. Sounding good. You know.

00:28:21:17 – 00:28:23:16
Cody Cresswell
I just kind of trust it’s going to sound good out there.

00:28:23:20 – 00:28:24:24
Brandon Adams
And so that’s what these guys do.

00:28:24:24 – 00:28:41:04
Cody Cresswell
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, trust that sounds great out there. And you know, typically out there give me a sound check. I’m just like, yeah, I can hear myself. I can hear my guitar. Need a little bit of Brandon’s vocals because you know, we do a lot of harmonies. And other than that, yeah, you can mostly hear what I need to hear on the stage or an amps and and such.

00:28:41:06 – 00:28:42:18
Cody Cresswell

00:28:42:20 – 00:29:02:04
Brandon Adams
Let’s go. So you got you got your, your first guitar from grandma. I started running through that. You started writing some songs or whatever. But what really kind of got you into thinking like, all right, I’m going to pop out and do this. You said you went to an open mic just to try it out. Did somebody encourage you to go jump and do this, or is like, you just got down to your own like it’s me.

00:29:02:04 – 00:29:20:18
Cody Cresswell
So my mom, Amy, was probably the first person that really pushed me to go because at the time, I think I had moved back from Dallas or right before I moved to Dallas. So I was living at her house and I was upstairs, and this is when I was really learning, to play. And she was I’m sure you could hear me quite a bit.

00:29:20:18 – 00:29:42:21
Cody Cresswell
I’m sure it was annoying at first. And the first open mic I did there was, there’s a brewery called thirsty Rose and Rye City. It was right there on Main Street, like some Mexican restaurant. Now, and I think Michael Summers was hosting it, and I went up there and I remember Gracie York was playing right before me, and I think it might’ve been one of her first open mics or something to.

00:29:42:21 – 00:29:56:23
Cody Cresswell
So a lot of people were in there and I was like, terrified. And I got up there and Zach Romo is in the building. I thought it was a great idea. Let’s play a Zach Romo song. So I played picture down and took a stab at that. And that was kind of the first moment. You know, everybody was like cheering and it was fun.

00:29:56:23 – 00:30:18:09
Cody Cresswell
And they messed up a lot. I forgot half the words. I was terrified, but, everybody out here in this music scene is just really supportive. So as soon as they heard me and then I started doing a few more open mics, it kind of just Domino left after that, and then they were asking me to open gigs for them, and, I tried to book a few gigs and I’ve seen videos of those first few gigs.

00:30:18:09 – 00:30:31:19
Cody Cresswell
I don’t know why I got paid to do that stuff, but they did, you know, and people were like, Linda’s Nook over here and, and, or maybe it’s Gilligan’s and to Orkney or one of the first people that paid me, like $50 to come play a gig. And my dad was trying to run sound on the iPad.

00:30:31:19 – 00:30:40:06
Cody Cresswell
He kept accidentally, like, mute me in the middle of songs, and she didn’t listen. It was brutal, but they hand me the money at the end of the night, and it, you know, you got to start somewhere, I guess.

00:30:40:06 – 00:31:00:00
Brandon Adams
Yeah, 100%, though, as you start to get a little bit of momentum, no matter where you get to, as you start to climb this ladder, the next step is always like, oh, it’s going to be this or going to be or it’s going to be that. Has it really changed that much from your very first one to the way you see it going into the next gig?

00:31:00:00 – 00:31:17:17
Brandon Adams
Have you really changed your approach? Very much at all? Because all I’m saying is, I hear a lot of guys I hear Zach and he’s like, oh, you know, I’m not that, you know, it’s not that big. I need to, I need to get better. I need to push. I need to do this. And I’m like, do you know, many people look up to you for who you are and what you’re doing?

00:31:17:19 – 00:31:37:07
Brandon Adams
You know, and he doesn’t see it that way. Right. And for I hear you say, was saying a tribute to him for his song, you know, as you came in to do this, like, well, you’re climbing that ladder too. And so now when you look back and someone starts to sing something you’ve, you’ve written at some point, you know, like, does it ever get does it ever get to where the butterflies kind of go away for you?

00:31:37:07 – 00:31:42:04
Brandon Adams
Or is it always continually there as you’re growing?

00:31:42:06 – 00:32:01:19
Cody Cresswell
That’s a really good question. I feel like they don’t ever really go away. I feel like this shows occasionally we play something that’s a little bigger, like a southern junction or something is a little more intimidating to me than if I go play at at brothers, where I’ve played, you know, I play once a month up there, and even if the room’s packed, I just it’s a comfortable place to me.

00:32:01:21 – 00:32:13:21
Cody Cresswell
It’s familiar. And then doing the shows like Southern Junction. Yeah. The butterflies are still there. You know I’ve played, I played there once before but it was a little different because we were there doing a show with Zach. So I know it’s going to be busy and.

00:32:14:01 – 00:32:14:08
Brandon Callies
And all.

00:32:14:08 – 00:32:25:23
Cody Cresswell
That stuff. So yeah, they’re still there, but not as much as they were. It’s just second nature sometimes. At this point I feel like, you just kind of kind of go do the same thing every single time and hope it goes well, I guess.

00:32:26:00 – 00:32:30:03
Brandon Adams
How many shows do you think you got under your belt right now? Oof.

00:32:30:05 – 00:32:31:09
Cody Cresswell
I don’t know, maybe like a thousand.

00:32:31:11 – 00:32:32:07
Brandon Adams
Isn’t that crazy?

00:32:32:07 – 00:32:38:17
Cody Cresswell
Yeah, that’s a good question to you. Yeah. Could be more than that. Could be. Could be less I don’t know. Yeah.

00:32:38:19 – 00:32:47:07
Brandon Adams
And what’s on the horizon for this year as you start to start to build into this year, you focusing more on releasing an album. Are you going into, where are you going?

00:32:47:09 – 00:33:02:03
Cody Cresswell
So we just did we just released last on a barstool. So right now we’re really pushing that. I think we released it to radio, like yesterday. So we’re going to see where that song kind of takes us really is where we’re at right now. I need to get back into, you know, songwriting is something I need.

00:33:02:04 – 00:33:17:21
Cody Cresswell
Sit down and start doing a lot more of. I got a few more songs in the bag right now that we can go in and and record, hopefully here soon, but I need to sit down and kind of get back into that songwriting element and, put together an album or something like that. But right now we’re just seeing where last time was going to take us.

00:33:17:23 – 00:33:21:09
Brandon Adams
And what goes about getting an album or a is an album or single.

00:33:21:11 – 00:33:22:12
Cody Cresswell
That one was a single. Okay.

00:33:22:12 – 00:33:36:21
Brandon Adams
What goes into getting one of those things release like. Well because there’s a lot of people out there like they have, they feel so far away from what you’ve done to get to this point. And they’re like, look, man, I’m pretty good at singing. I’m pretty good at writing. You know, some story telling stories. And then I’m pretty good at the guitar.

00:33:36:21 – 00:33:46:03
Brandon Adams
And I got and I got no way to get to where you’re at. You seem so far removed yet. To you. You. You’re making this sound like I’m at the beginning of my journey. Yeah, right.

00:33:46:05 – 00:33:54:00
Cody Cresswell
I’m, like the last person to be able to answer that question. Because I’m lucky. Because she does. I mean, for the most part, all the distribution and getting the songs out is Aimee Mann.

00:33:54:02 – 00:33:54:09
Brandon Adams

00:33:54:10 – 00:33:55:10
Brandon Callies
Top shelf talent and.

00:33:55:11 – 00:33:56:04
Cody Cresswell
Top shelf talent.

00:33:56:04 – 00:34:05:11
Brandon Callies
Breezing over that. She’s she is very much a glue for a lot of this community and does a lot.

00:34:05:13 – 00:34:19:22
Brandon Adams
Talk about that a little bit. So like I don’t know about top shelf talent. So tell me a little bit about that. And like how somebody comes to get introduced to that. Like what role do they play. Like how do they do. They book, you know, venues for you like I don’t you explain that a little bit.

00:34:20:02 – 00:34:41:16
Brandon Callies
Yeah. I mean, that’s a great segue. Just because, you know, with the record stuff is very daunting outside of just the vulnerability of the songwriting itself, you know? So having, somebody that’s sort of like on your team, you know, that has that knowledge and is able to do those things. And Amy’s worked with a ton of artists.

00:34:41:16 – 00:35:04:19
Brandon Callies
I mean, you know, her and Cody are two of the first people that I met when I, you know, came back here and, you know, she recognized, oh, this guy can play, you know, and so she was booking shows still, I mean, still books. A lot of venues around town. And Dallas just kind of all over.

00:35:04:21 – 00:35:14:10
Brandon Callies
But then on top of that, has connections with a lot of the Texas charts and, and all that kind of stuff and radio.

00:35:14:13 – 00:35:15:19
Brandon Adams

00:35:15:21 – 00:35:39:22
Brandon Callies
So she’s able to handle all of that more recently she’s doing travel. So she’s scheduled a trip that, I’m going to the UK with a separate band and she sort of put all that together, you know, for, for folks. So, I mean, it’s very valuable to have somebody like, like that.

00:35:39:24 – 00:35:46:05
Brandon Adams
What you guys are saying is like, you can’t do it by yourself, right? There’s these other people that are with you along along the way that are helpful.

00:35:46:07 – 00:36:13:19
Brandon Callies
Yeah. I mean, it’s the that’s the thing. It’s it takes that off of your plate and especially somebody like her, it’s she’s got connections that we aren’t ever going to have. You know what I mean? She has some people that trust her to put people in their rooms. You know, just because she’s good at what she does and it’s, you know, Cody, Cody wouldn’t have been able to get in certain rooms had it not been for her.

00:36:13:19 – 00:36:16:16
Brandon Callies
Same for me and a lot of people around here.

00:36:16:18 – 00:36:33:13
Brandon Adams
So and so the next step is like how do you for somebody I’m talking about someone in the outside at this point. How do they now start to progress their way to where you guys are at. Or they do. They need to go to a Bluebirds and start to do open mics. Is that kind of the first step is like cutting your teeth.

00:36:33:17 – 00:37:06:21
Brandon Callies
I can I mean my the best thing that I can ever say and I don’t know what your thought process is, but it’s anybody that’s doing that. I would say play as much as you can and connect with people. Go, you know, do your music, get in front of everybody so that they’re starting to see you and you meet, you know, people like Amy that are in management and all that, but then also being supportive and just going to venues to watch other people and, you know, creating a network, is very valuable.

00:37:06:21 – 00:37:26:10
Cody Cresswell
I think that kind of realize, especially being as hooked up to a lot of like these guys talking to all the different people that I’ve talked to in the industry. There’s not one specific path you can really take in doing anything. So everybody has different opinions on how you can approach situations. So it’s really just kind of how you want to handle it.

00:37:26:12 – 00:37:37:17
Cody Cresswell
You know, there’s just different avenues you can take. But yeah, it’s just getting out there and putting yourself in front of everybody you can. And yeah, networking and and just don’t suck at a person you know as a person. Okay. That’ll help you a lot.

00:37:37:20 – 00:37:40:18
Brandon Callies
Yeah. Or put up one video on TikTok that slams and just.

00:37:40:19 – 00:37:41:03
Cody Cresswell
Go do.

00:37:41:03 – 00:37:41:24
Brandon Callies
That viral.

00:37:42:01 – 00:37:42:15
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

00:37:42:17 – 00:37:45:19
Cody Cresswell
And you play an arena like two weeks later. Yeah.

00:37:45:21 – 00:38:12:15
Brandon Adams
You know, the crazy thing is, is that there’s a lot of different avenues that are out there for people to go out and get exposure and pay for exposure and do these other things. Right. But I like what you said right there. It was like, support other people, too. You know, it’s not just about what can I do to get what can I do to get ahead or what can I do to, get my music or let people see who I am?

00:38:12:15 – 00:38:34:03
Brandon Adams
But it’s like, look, man, I know you care about your stuff the same way I care about my stuff. Like, let me go support you and in something and let you feel what you need to feel so you can blossom, right? Yeah. That’s a really cool point that I don’t think a lot of people kind of bring out is it’s always about what’s up for me, you know, but just community in this thing.

00:38:34:05 – 00:38:47:17
Brandon Adams
And that starts the network. Because now that you’ve done that for that person, they’re going to introduce you or they’re going to take you somewhere and show you somebody and do these things, and, that’s when it starts to blossom. Yeah. Is that how you see it as well? Yeah.

00:38:47:19 – 00:38:48:16
Cody Cresswell
Yeah. Hundred percent.

00:38:48:18 – 00:39:11:18
Brandon Callies
And I think the community it just overall like this specific one is very cognizant of that. I mean everybody does that from Zach Romo and Michael Summers and Brian. Sure. Like all those guys are all going to each other’s shows. And if we have anything to say about it, we’re going to put our friends on shows with us.

00:39:11:19 – 00:39:13:24
Brandon Callies
Sure. You know, and so.

00:39:14:01 – 00:39:22:08
Cody Cresswell
There’s the best ones to, you know, we go out to Deep Ellum and it’s just a whole bill of all everybody’s at will call. So we’re just spending the entire day hanging out.

00:39:22:08 – 00:39:23:23
Brandon Callies
And yeah, that’s always.

00:39:24:00 – 00:39:25:10
Cody Cresswell
You know, that’s that’s the best part.

00:39:25:10 – 00:39:55:02
Brandon Callies
Yeah. We’ve been trying to move this even just outside of this, town and put, you know, put, you know, our group in Dallas and in Oklahoma town and, you know, like all these places. So it’s not just confined to like, well, there’s these really this group of guys and East Texas that are really just out there, you know, we’re kind of doing a better job at getting it, you know, out of just, you know, Hunt County.

00:39:55:04 – 00:40:11:20
Brandon Adams
So yeah, it’s like really cool to see the networking, but not only the networking, but the people that are carrying the torch for the next generation. Like there’s obviously an age gap between you two guys, you know, and to see that you’re as invested in these older than me. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well, I’m probably older.

00:40:11:20 – 00:40:29:16
Brandon Adams
Both of you. So. Or maybe not, I don’t know, who knows. But at the end of the day, like, to see somebody still look up and go, man, I really like what you’re doing. I see you as a as, a technician or a writer or somebody who’s doing something special as an artist and they go, I’m investing in that.

00:40:29:18 – 00:40:50:03
Brandon Adams
I don’t see you as a kid. I don’t see you as somebody that hasn’t made it to where I’m at yet. Take my hand. Let’s go. I’m gonna, I’m going to show you the ropes because at some point I don’t expect you to do that to the next generation. Right, right. You gotta you gotta find those people who are willing to invest themselves and find those people who are passionate about the things that they’re doing and carry it on through and pass that down.

00:40:50:03 – 00:40:52:12
Brandon Adams
Right. Is that is that kind of how it’s going to end?

00:40:52:14 – 00:40:53:24
Brandon Callies
Absolutely.

00:40:54:01 – 00:41:14:18
Brandon Adams
Yeah, exactly. Because I hear about this smaller circle, the more that I’m doing these, I hear about this circle of East Texas guys that are kind of networking together and they’re, you know, picking it all up and kind of carrying the torch. And there’s a lot of really talented guys out in East Texas. You know? So, seeing that kind of go from generation to generation is, is really cool like that.

00:41:14:20 – 00:41:37:24
Brandon Adams
There’s an entire generation between you two guys. But, it is cool to kind of see that, you know, kind of networking of like, I can be playing this for you or whatever. And, you know, also share those connections of how you got to where you’re at right now. That’s cool. Couldn’t agree more. When you get into, you know, booking shows and getting bigger, you said you started out a little bit smaller.

00:41:38:04 – 00:41:42:04
Brandon Adams
What’s the biggest way you’ve done Southern Junction? The biggest.

00:41:42:06 – 00:41:44:05
Brandon Callies
For Cody, I mean, I would say South Holland.

00:41:44:08 – 00:41:44:22
Cody Cresswell
Oh, yeah.

00:41:44:23 – 00:41:46:03
Brandon Callies
That one there we down.

00:41:46:06 – 00:42:04:12
Cody Cresswell
We did a, duo thing where me and Brandon opened up for South Hart to host downswing. Which that one was really fun. So it was us. And then Carson, Jeffrey and South also. That’s probably the coolest thing that I got on the docket right now. Yeah, yeah. And Southern Junction was fun with Zach as far as you know, venues go.

00:42:04:14 – 00:42:06:07
Brandon Adams

00:42:06:09 – 00:42:14:24
Cody Cresswell
I really enjoy we did. You know, sundown in Granada was really fun, but I’m going to say probably. Yeah, that, that that whole stenciling opened up south.

00:42:14:24 – 00:42:29:17
Brandon Adams
Or is it the size of the crowd that kind of feeds into you playing? Do you change your style based upon the feedback you’re getting once you’re once you’re playing, or is it, I’m giving this is me and this is what everyone gets.

00:42:29:19 – 00:42:50:19
Cody Cresswell
Now, the crowd definitely has an effect because there’s I’ve played for big crowds. We’re just nobody cares, right. And they’re not paying attention. So it’s it’s really sometimes not even fun. And that aspect but like the The hometown show was it’s a, it’s a South Hall crowd already. So the whole floor is already packed and they’re just looking up and there everything that you’re saying and that microphone there you know.

00:42:50:21 – 00:43:07:07
Cody Cresswell
So that’s always a good feeling. And that probably affects me a little more as, as I’m probably gonna go a little, a little harder I guess. And that at that point I think I was super sick that day too. And it was just right at the beginning of it. So I got really lucky that it wasn’t a day later, but he was.

00:43:07:07 – 00:43:13:13
Brandon Callies
He had me terrified. Scott walked in and he just looked like hell. And I’m a man on this.

00:43:13:13 – 00:43:22:16
Cody Cresswell
Could not I don’t myself up on Madison and yeah, I think maybe right towards the end of the set or we want to get done it was about I was that I was over.

00:43:22:18 – 00:43:23:02
Brandon Adams
Well, the.

00:43:23:02 – 00:43:44:05
Brandon Callies
Problem with that whole thing was, is like he said, it’s like, you know, if you’re sick like that, you hope your band can kind of just cover for you. Be loud. There’s no band. It was me and me and him. So it’s, you know, very apparent vocals. And I was on upright bass, so I mean, everything was really very stripped.

00:43:44:07 – 00:43:58:18
Brandon Callies
So I mean, he had the sound, you know, he had to sound good to get their attention, and he was able to fight through that and, and do it. I mean, I truly could not tell when we were on the stage, but when you would just sit there and talk to him, you know?

00:43:58:23 – 00:44:00:15
Cody Cresswell
Yeah, that was rough. It’s funny.

00:44:00:20 – 00:44:19:18
Brandon Adams
When you get out as a singer songwriter and you hear somebody, you write something that’s from your heart every time, I’m guessing. I mean, some may be more fun, but I’m guessing there’s some some heart strings in there that get pulled. But when you’re singing your song and you look out and someone knows the lyrics and they’re singing and back at you, what’s that mean?

00:44:19:20 – 00:44:33:03
Cody Cresswell
I mean, that’s and these all of it. I mean, this means everything, I guess, because that’s essentially why. But I didn’t feel like Missing Home is probably the most when I go out and play a song is probably the one that I have people really yelling at back at me at this point, which is it’s just a great feeling.

00:44:33:03 – 00:44:49:12
Cody Cresswell
It’s the first song that I ever sat down and wrote in a one bedroom apartment. I lived in Dallas, hated every minute of it. And so that whole song is basically about how it’s coming back every single weekend, hanging out with all my friends, spending money on an apartment in Dallas. But I was just driving back and forth, and then I would go out there and just sleep.

00:44:49:12 – 00:45:04:16
Cody Cresswell
And so the whole time was just moved to Dallas, realized how much I hated that. And missing home was about missing Hunt County. So when I go and play a show at, let’s say Sweetwater Grill and Hunt County and sit down, I’m singing this at home and there’s even ten people, neurologists yelling at back at you.

00:45:04:18 – 00:45:09:10
Cody Cresswell
That means I guess, everything really. That’s the whole whole reason for doing it.

00:45:09:12 – 00:45:27:09
Brandon Adams
Yeah. I mean and I don’t know that’s the reason I’m asking it, I just seen it happen before and like some of those moments that have really caught me because I’m not a singer songwriter as a songwriter is, I’ll see those guys singing on stage and then they’ll stop singing and the crowd is singing for them, and that gives me chills as as a creator, right?

00:45:27:09 – 00:45:31:12
Brandon Adams
As someone who’s made something that is taking its own life, right?

00:45:31:12 – 00:45:35:20
Cody Cresswell
It has resonated with somebody enough that they’re they’re singing it back to you. And yeah, that’s a great feeling.

00:45:35:22 – 00:45:56:16
Brandon Adams
Yeah. And then just look out and see that whole thing just kind of like sometimes the music goes down a little bit and the crowd keeps going and like the amplification of your words or everything. Right. And so something that came out of your mind and your heart has resonated with so many other people out there. Just because you took the time to get it out.

00:45:56:16 – 00:46:14:16
Brandon Adams
And a lot of people don’t have that gift, you know? And so if you have something that is so much on your heart, and then all those people absorb that so heavily and it means something to them, and they could just know it by word every single word, had to me like, it’s got to be the it’s got to be the crown jewel, right?

00:46:14:16 – 00:46:18:16
Brandon Adams
Like what? What is better than that? Is there anything better than that?

00:46:18:18 – 00:46:26:17
Cody Cresswell
I mean, that’s pretty up there. Yeah, I can’t, I can’t think of anything. Yeah. And and and what we do. Yeah. I can’t think of being able to beat that. Really. No.

00:46:26:23 – 00:46:51:16
Brandon Callies
Yeah I would imagine a full, a cool full circle thing for you. And I don’t want to speak for you, but I mean he’s talking about, you know, Zach Romo being sort of somebody that he was looking up to and made him want to play guitar. And I’ve, you know, heard Zach talk about, that single that’s out that lost on a barstool song where he said, that’s going to be the song that you’re remembered for, and that’s his favorite song.

00:46:51:18 – 00:46:57:13
Brandon Callies
So, you know, he’ll sit there and sing that song every time Cody plays it and, you know.

00:46:57:15 – 00:47:24:09
Brandon Adams
So, yeah, and especially looking back, even for something like that, you have somebody that you looked up to is now singing something that, you know, that that was, is yours, right? Yeah, absolutely. That kind of look in the mirror is a is a tough one to kind of reflect on at some points that that would make me super nervous, you know, like right now I’m handing not only my baby out, but I’m handing my baby to the person that helped me create because I saw in them something I wanted to be.

00:47:24:15 – 00:47:41:22
Brandon Adams
And now I’m going. Not just everybody else who looks at it, but you go. The person that kind of inspired this. What do you think? You know, I’m not saying he was your ultimate inspiration, but at the end of the day, like those, those kind of moments, are got to be tough, right?

00:47:41:24 – 00:48:00:06
Cody Cresswell
And with Zach, not so much. I mean, we’re I’m such good friends of Zach at this point that, I think anything that I were to write and just do in front of Zach, I would always just feel good about that. I don’t think you would ever be scary or terrifying or anything to me. I but I do understand what you’re saying.

00:48:00:06 – 00:48:11:06
Cody Cresswell
Yeah. I mean, that’s, you know, part of the thing that inspired me is literally now singing the same song that I just, you know, released a few weeks ago or whatever. I mean, yeah, it just feels good. Yeah. Honestly, more than anything.

00:48:11:07 – 00:48:23:05
Brandon Adams
That’s awesome. I mean, so going forward, you’ve got what’s on the docket you’re trying to set up, you know, shows you’re trying to get the, trying to get the new song out in front of people. Like, what’s the next steps here?

00:48:23:07 – 00:48:41:04
Cody Cresswell
Yeah, I think, I mean, that’s the main thing right now is just pushing lost on a barstool. I think I saw yesterday that I got nominated for, Emerging Male Artist of the year or something on that Texas internet radio, so that’s cool. Maybe we’ll push that and and chase that thing. I mean, anything on the resume is always good, right?

00:48:41:04 – 00:48:58:09
Cody Cresswell
So when we do booking venues, I don’t I don’t think we have anything really, you know, on the radar as far as where we’re going to play or kind of, too much of that going on right now. It’s it’s more of pushing lost on a barstool. I need to get back in the studio and get some more content out and just kind of keep the momentum.

00:48:58:11 – 00:49:00:02
Brandon Adams
Are you a social guy?

00:49:00:04 – 00:49:00:22
Cody Cresswell
I think so, yeah.

00:49:01:00 – 00:49:02:11
Brandon Adams
Social media?

00:49:02:13 – 00:49:08:06
Cody Cresswell
No. Not so much. Yeah. Yeah, that’s that’s probably where I thought a lot. And now I get told that pretty often I use Facebook.

00:49:08:07 – 00:49:08:16
Brandon Adams
Okay.

00:49:08:22 – 00:49:11:02
Cody Cresswell
That’s about it. Isn’t that the only one I use?

00:49:11:04 – 00:49:14:04
Brandon Adams
You know, there’s a lot of. Are you a social media?

00:49:14:06 – 00:49:17:06
Brandon Callies
Yeah. It’s funny you ask. I mean, I pretty much run his.

00:49:17:10 – 00:49:22:12
Brandon Adams
Okay, okay. And what goes into that?

00:49:22:14 – 00:49:48:12
Brandon Callies
I mean, it’s it’s a decent amount just, you know, trying to, like, it’s, you know, getting the schedule together and trying to find images that you’re not using over and over and being cognizant of. We need more promo shots from Cody. We need, you know, to make sure that we have a photographer at this show so we can have, you know, recap or stuff to use in the future.

00:49:48:15 – 00:49:49:06
Brandon Callies
And the difference.

00:49:49:06 – 00:50:05:16
Cody Cresswell
Between, like, my Instagram and what it used to look like. And then, you know, because beforehand it was a lot of me posting randomly on there, you know, my mom kind of posted randomly on there and it’d be blown gaps in between everything. So Brandon, just a really good job kind of getting it cleaned up and just stays consistent.

00:50:05:16 – 00:50:08:21
Cody Cresswell
And I mean, that’s really what you need. The more people look at it, the better it is.

00:50:08:23 – 00:50:21:16
Brandon Callies
And I do, you know, I do all of his artwork, show posters and, album art and stuff like that. So creating, that stuff, you know, to, to post. So, I mean, it’s, it’s an endeavor.

00:50:21:22 – 00:50:24:05
Cody Cresswell
And I’m starting to realize I might be lazy and.

00:50:24:07 – 00:50:51:17
Brandon Adams
But it’s a different skill set altogether. Right. Like, what do I do? Yeah. As you, as you go through and start crafting his look and his feel for Instagram, like what goes into that? Because you I’m in marketing. So I’m don’t want to answer the question for this, but I want people out there to understand like what goes into you setting up his persona, the type of photo that you use, the cadence as, you use the caption that you put on there when you started thinking about him.

00:50:51:17 – 00:50:52:14
Brandon Adams
What goes into that?

00:50:52:15 – 00:51:10:19
Brandon Callies
Just knowing his personality, knowing the things that he’s going to like. And you know what he doesn’t, you know, is kind of, it’s always in my brain if I’m posting something on behalf of somebody else like Cody, it’s is is this something that they’re he’s going to be proud of and that he’s going to like.

00:51:10:21 – 00:51:18:22
Brandon Adams
So what’s the balance between how much polish you put on this and how much you keep it raw.

00:51:18:24 – 00:51:43:04
Brandon Callies
I don’t really put any polish on it. You know I my, my job I think is on the art side is to do that the best that I can, you know, and then outside of that, you know, I don’t I mean, I’ve taken some pictures of you, but for the most part, we rely on, you know, photographers and whatnot to sort of create that.

00:51:43:04 – 00:51:52:01
Brandon Callies
And we don’t change it, you know, just trust what they do and they’re going to do that well and provide you with something, something good.

00:51:52:03 – 00:52:05:08
Brandon Adams
As part of the business. You guys are picking out your photographers that are coming with you or you’re just you’re assigned photographers. Do you guys look at the style that they shoot? Do you guys look into those those things? Or is it like, hey, here’s the here’s the group photo person today.

00:52:05:08 – 00:52:31:09
Brandon Callies
So, well, we’re we’re very lucky to go back to sort of a team. You know, Cody’s mom does a lot of those. She’s a badass photographer. And then, my wife does a lot as well. So a lot of the images are kind of coming from those two, those two camps. And then just sort of randomly, I mean, a lot of times you get lucky when there happens to be somebody there at an event.

00:52:31:11 – 00:52:38:22
Brandon Callies
And they’ll, you know, they’ll send you what they’ve taken and if they’re good, you know, and they meet those sort of standards and you, you know you use them.

00:52:38:24 – 00:52:42:05
Brandon Adams
That’s very cool. Yeah. The crowdsource some of the photography is pretty amazing.

00:52:42:09 – 00:52:44:01
Cody Cresswell
Yeah a lot of iPhone pictures.

00:52:44:03 – 00:53:06:19
Brandon Adams
Yeah. Those can be really cool too. Because you know, when you guys start to put your, your persona out there, right. Like if you’re dirt road like, you know, also want to go up and put a lot of glitz and glam on something, you want to be on the back of a tailgate and you want to have sepia toned photos, and you want to have things that feel more, this was me in the back of the at the on the back of the tailgate when I was, you know, talking to my people out the other day.

00:53:06:19 – 00:53:41:20
Brandon Callies
And especially now. Yeah. Nowadays, I think that that’s more important than ever because, you know, I think that there’s a push back from younger folks now. That they’re looking for things that are more raw because we’re living in a world where a lot of times you can’t tell with AI and all that kind of stuff. And so, sort of the more raw that you can get nowadays plays a little bit better, because if people are listening to real music, they want to know that person.

00:53:41:22 – 00:53:48:24
Brandon Callies
You know what I mean. So I think the warts and all thing is kind of what it’s about nowadays.

00:53:48:24 – 00:54:07:08
Brandon Adams
Yeah I agree so much stuff has gone into the AI side of things. And I wonder like how much of a role that kind of seeps into everyday life for you guys as far as the creation, the curation of what you’re doing? For example, there’s there’s books that are got people that I’ve talked to like, oh, I’m going to write a book this week.

00:54:07:08 – 00:54:21:16
Brandon Adams
And it’s like, that sounds crazy. And they’re like, oh, no, I mean, I just kind of put the itinerary or what I want, and I can spit it out, and then I can tune it in and spit it out, and I can tune it, and that’s done. And I’m like, okay, everything kind of gets manufactured at some point, right?

00:54:21:16 – 00:54:34:01
Brandon Adams
And I think, hey, there’s a great tool. It’s not, it’s not the death of, originality. And it can be used as a tool. But how much do you guys use that as a tool at all? Or do you. Not at all.

00:54:34:03 – 00:54:47:22
Cody Cresswell
I don’t use it at all. It’s starting to get weird to me because I’m starting to look at stuff on, on Facebook and scroll on, and I can’t tell, you know, I can’t tell if it’s real or not. And a lot of science, like, so my dad, you know, he’ll tell me the most ridiculous thing sometimes thinking somebody’s dead.

00:54:47:22 – 00:55:02:21
Cody Cresswell
And I’m like, nope, buddy. That’s, you know, and it’s like a I form, you know, picture of the guy or whatever, just, just all kinds of crazy stuff like that where it’s getting me every now and then where I’m thinking something’s actually real and it’s not. And the creative process, I don’t use it. It a little, even a little bit.

00:55:02:21 – 00:55:21:20
Cody Cresswell
I don’t touch it. I feel like it’s gotta be a lot more scary for him as far as, you know, art and things like that. More than music. Because music, until I get a I gets really smart. I feel like music’s still going to have that originality to it now. You know, somebody kind of and unique as opposed to what I can do right now.

00:55:21:20 – 00:55:27:13
Cody Cresswell
We’ll see where that goes. But yeah, it’s getting more scary for even, like, you know, you guys doing artwork and stuff like that, I would think.

00:55:27:14 – 00:55:52:12
Brandon Callies
I mean, I’ll sound like the curmudgeonly old do, but I’m vehemently opposed to it. Yeah. I mean, I get it in industry and and all that kind of stuff in a creative process. I don’t think it does anybody any good. I think in my opinion, I can just only speak for myself. I could never be proud of something that didn’t come from my brain.

00:55:52:14 – 00:56:24:14
Brandon Callies
If I had to use it even to, to spur to get ideas or, or whatever, I just personally don’t feel like I could feel good about it. Would any output coming from me? I want it to be completely organic. And it came from my, my brain. I do think that, you know, you start to use AI for inspiration or in whatever context you use it.

00:56:24:16 – 00:56:35:07
Brandon Callies
That’s when things start to sound real similar because we’re all looking, you know, if everybody’s kind of going to AI and it’s, it’s spitting out those ideas, you know.

00:56:35:07 – 00:56:56:15
Cody Cresswell
It’s, you know, you see it right now on, on, on Facebook with a lot of venues that are using those for show posters and things and all of them, you know, look the same, which is terrible for top shelf. You know, like my mom, she does she does a lot of those posters and so does Brandon. But a lot of those venues are starting to go to just telling the phone to throw a poster together that has this on there and this and this, and it throws it on there.

00:56:56:15 – 00:57:03:19
Cody Cresswell
And all of them are starting to just kind of have that same look to them. Yeah. You can just instantly tell. Yeah, there’s nothing unique or original about it at all.

00:57:03:21 – 00:57:36:06
Brandon Callies
I’m not super worried about it. And I think I’m not super worried about it because of the reason that I told you earlier. I think especially younger people, there’s a huge pushback. I mean, almost anybody that I talk to that’s, you know, in their 20s are not into it at all. And I mean, I really thought, I mean, if you were to ask me a year ago, I’ve never thought that I was going to take over music because people care so much about the personality behind the music.

00:57:36:06 – 00:58:03:18
Brandon Callies
It’s like, I would use Taylor Swift as an example. You know, people, do you think people love her? They do love her music. But I think people that are paying attention to Taylor Swift love her as a person, you know what I mean? That’s what they’re really looking at. And so I think with music, that’s why that’s always going to be their art was a little scarier for me because, you know, a lot of times you don’t really have to feel like you have to know the artist.

00:58:03:18 – 00:58:22:24
Brandon Callies
That’s not something that plays into it a lot. But I mean, so I thought that my, that sort of side of things was going to go by the wayside. But, I mean, I’ve stayed insanely busy because people are wanting, you know, that thing that’s real.

00:58:23:03 – 00:58:24:21
Brandon Adams

00:58:24:23 – 00:58:44:13
Brandon Callies
You know, I mean, as an, as an artist you develop and you have it, I mean, I don’t have to if one of your images pop up, I immediately know that it’s yours. Yeah. And I think that we all kind of have that. And you know, that’s the thing that I, I don’t think is going to be able to really do you know, get that exactly right.

00:58:44:15 – 00:58:45:08
Brandon Callies

00:58:45:10 – 00:59:12:21
Brandon Adams
So can I and I have a completely unique perspective. I think you know, different from you guys on this, which is really kind of mind bending for me because we kind of stand in the same soil. Right. I see I as a tool. I see I as something that can help speed the process up. I see I see things that can help us get through, the mundane to get to the good.

00:59:12:23 – 00:59:36:12
Brandon Adams
Right. And so if I can use it for my bank account, if I can use it for, financing and figuring out, you know, these different things and things that I don’t need to get to like that solves problems. Right. For the creative side of stuff, if I have ten concepts, I’m brainstorming and I’m coming up with these and I say, hey, here’s this, and let’s, let’s sort through and get to these points, right?

00:59:36:12 – 00:59:54:10
Brandon Adams
Like, that’s a tool that’s going to help me curate faster, right? Not that I’m going, hey, please build me something for the end of the day that I’m going to sell out to somebody and tell them it’s me, when it’s obviously just because I say put my style on it or my name on it. It could do that.

00:59:54:12 – 01:00:06:19
Brandon Adams
Yeah. But at the end of the day, like, that’s not creation, right? Getting to telling the story of what it is and getting to presenting my hand skills and, and the story that I want to get out, or even.

01:00:06:20 – 01:00:07:16
Cody Cresswell
Learning the process.

01:00:07:16 – 01:00:32:19
Brandon Adams
Streamline the process. Because if you don’t do that, here’s my here’s my, caveat. If you don’t do that, people will pass you by. It is a tool that I can stand and say, I’m not dealing with this because it’s not 100% me. I can do that. But there will be 50 people who will do it, and they will generate faster and produce faster, and they will have, let’s say, hit songs.

01:00:32:19 – 01:00:55:07
Brandon Adams
I have five. If I were to do this, I could have 20, right? Or I have 20 to choose from to get to one instead of five to choose from to try to hit that one. Right. So generating and showing stuff for myself, it helps me get through the mundane to get to the to the juice, to the creative, because it’s not going to change who you are unless you’re just going, please do me something and whatever.

01:00:55:07 – 01:00:57:14
Brandon Adams
That’s that’s cheap, right?

01:00:57:16 – 01:01:25:17
Brandon Callies
I also think it’s personal goals too. And I think that’s my thing is like, I don’t know, I think I might be, weighted to, to do something like that if my thought process was, output, you know, and doing that, it’s just it’s not where my brain is at. And so I do music and art 100% because I love it.

01:01:25:17 – 01:01:41:24
Brandon Callies
If nobody else is going to hear it, you know what I mean? Yeah. I’m still going to do it. Yeah, I would imagine. You know, he’s kind of the same way a lot of these guys are. And so I think that’s what it is for me. I have to I have to, reconcile things in, in my brain.

01:01:41:24 – 01:01:47:10
Brandon Callies
And it’s just a thing for me that I think doesn’t sit well.

01:01:47:15 – 01:01:47:21
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

01:01:47:22 – 01:01:48:15
Brandon Callies
Just for me.

01:01:48:15 – 01:01:55:24
Cody Cresswell
I really appreciate about it. I think even if I put out 20 songs as opposed to three, I wouldn’t feel good about, you know, the 20 songs. Me personally.

01:01:55:24 – 01:01:56:17
Brandon Adams
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:56:17 – 01:02:16:21
Brandon Callies
But I’ve seen people, you know, I’ve seen people that that do, including. Kudos to you. I’m an advocate of anybody doing what they do and how they do it. Yeah. Do it. If it if it it makes you happy. I can only speak, you know, from my own perspective and like, again, reconciling things in my mind.

01:02:16:23 – 01:02:36:24
Brandon Adams
Yeah. The cool thing about that is like, we can have these conversations and, and you guys can be vehemently against it. Like, that’s cool too. Like, hey, I’m completely doing it this way because I’ve done it this way and this. I got here, this is my process. Yeah. And that’s that is totally fine. You know, like, there’s nothing wrong with there’s something really raw and cool about that.

01:02:37:04 – 01:02:42:12
Cody Cresswell
And I wish my process was faster. I will say that I got a and I’m a slow songwriter, right.

01:02:42:14 – 01:02:44:03
Brandon Callies
I matter you might have just convinced him to.

01:02:44:03 – 01:03:00:03
Brandon Adams
I. Yeah. Right. Well, I mean, it’s even if it I mean, even if it’s gathering your thoughts, you know. Hey, here’s all the notes that I wrote. Can you please scan this and put these in a, in a write in a format where I can read these better? Don’t create this thing for me, but read it better. Put it in order.

01:03:00:09 – 01:03:14:01
Brandon Adams
Oh, what was that? What was I working on last month? Can you please bring those ideas up from last month or invest and it generates for you instead of you going to start? Oh, there. I had a piece of paper around here somewhere. Where was that thing at? I don’t know, I think I said a beer on it the other day, or somebody wanted their gum up in it or whatever.

01:03:14:01 – 01:03:19:08
Brandon Adams
Like, you know, it doesn’t have to be the creator. It can be the admin for you.

01:03:19:08 – 01:03:26:16
Brandon Callies
Yeah, yeah, I like that explanation. Like more of it can be the admin. That’s a that’s a a good perspective. Right?

01:03:26:17 – 01:03:40:05
Brandon Adams
I think because ultimately you’re the one that’s telling it what to do. You’re the one that’s directing it. You’re the one. It’s not a brain that’s out there for you doing something. It is you doing this right. I don’t know. I’m soapbox in for a minute, and I’m sure it’s.

01:03:40:06 – 01:03:54:16
Cody Cresswell
Like a slippery slope kind of thing. Yes it is. Start kind of using it, then, you know, it’s if you use it for one thing, then, you know, the next time you kind of go a little bit further to start pushing into that creative process. And that’s where I would, I feel like lose me.

01:03:54:18 – 01:04:16:12
Brandon Adams
Well, I think as long as you stay true to who you are. Yeah. And what you’re trying to say, you know, the, the admin process that is, is, is, pretty good. And, and again, I don’t want to soapbox and self-control. Yeah. Have some self-control. I mean really that’s your next song right there. But, but at the end of the day, too, like, it’s all about production, right?

01:04:16:14 – 01:04:32:13
Brandon Adams
It’s all about production for what you guys are able to put out so people can latch to. Right? Yeah. Because there’s some lyric somewhere that’s going to come out of that brain. It’s going to hit that mic and it’s going to hit the airwaves and someone’s going to go, that’s me. I feel that in my heart, that’s exactly what I was talking about.

01:04:32:13 – 01:04:46:17
Brandon Adams
I’ve been through that. That’s my family. That’s how I’ve felt, right? I’ve been on that dirt road. Those are my people. I grew up. I sat by that fire. You’re going to do all those things, right? And so the more times you’re able to tell a story that someone can connect with, the more it shows them who you are.

01:04:46:17 – 01:05:06:09
Brandon Adams
More exposes the world to who you are and what you’re doing. You know, and and and I and I say that because I get excited when I send around people like you because you have so much to say and so much for me. I got to go through, you know, I go sit in a room, I go sit in a studio by myself till late 2 or 3:00 in the morning.

01:05:06:11 – 01:05:28:14
Brandon Adams
I myself, there’s no fans out there for that. There’s no there’s no people cheering me on or singing. Oh, he brushstroke that right. You know they don’t have that right. You guys have that. And it’s so cool that you can say something from your heart, and it’s accessible for the rest of the world. You can just say one lyric, one one bar, and it hits somebody like an arrow to the heart.

01:05:28:16 – 01:05:45:11
Brandon Adams
It’s it’s untouchable. You guys are. You guys are the creme de la creme when it comes to, you know, setting yourselves apart or encouraging the world, turning someone from sad to happy, getting someone out of a whole, you know, because they can relate, right?

01:05:45:14 – 01:05:53:19
Cody Cresswell
In this same reason I started doing it. That’s why, you know, the same thing that music has been doing to me basically my whole life. And then, yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:05:53:24 – 01:06:10:10
Brandon Adams
Yeah. I mean, honestly, like, I, I want to, I want to hear some of those things from you and like, who was the person that did that for you? What was the one moment that came from you guys who were like, this is what I want to do. This is why I want to do it.

01:06:10:12 – 01:06:11:04
Brandon Adams
Do you have yours?

01:06:11:10 – 01:06:15:12
Cody Cresswell
No, I really don’t know. That’s a good thing.

01:06:15:14 – 01:06:41:09
Brandon Callies
Yeah. I mean, it just really depends on how much in the weeds you want to get. I mean, I would attribute any sort of effect that music had on me to one of my friends names, Travis Turner. And I, I remember I was collecting comic books and comic book cards and we were kids and, him and I would trade these comic book cards back and forth.

01:06:41:09 – 01:07:09:05
Brandon Callies
And one day I came over to his house and, he just had no interest anymore. And, he pulled out a, white zombie. The Astro Crate 2000. Record. And, like he had just there was these like few records. Armory had the offspring smash and you know, these nine 90s albums. And he was like, hey man, you should go listen to these.

01:07:09:07 – 01:07:32:05
Brandon Callies
And it’ll sort of probably shift your world a little bit too. And what insight coming from of, you know, 12 year old, you know, it really did channeling that. That is absolutely the thing that sort of I can point back to and go, wow, like, I, I love this and really latched on to music. And at that point it’s like I’m MTV generation.

01:07:32:05 – 01:07:49:01
Brandon Callies
So, you know, seeing Smashing Pumpkins videos, you know, wrote songs she wrote. Yeah. When he when I realized, you know, like the impact that that has on on people. I think that was really what made me go, man, that’s super cool. I want to be a part of that.

01:07:49:03 – 01:08:08:05
Brandon Adams
Or in the visuals, you know, that. That’s what really spurred me on. I was MTV when it, you know, we were there when it first came out and Peter Gabriel, you know, sledgehammer when that video came out, it was incredible. And the black and white when he’s banging on the wall and he finally falls into color, I was like, I have to visually like be able to tell a story like this.

01:08:08:05 – 01:08:26:13
Brandon Adams
This is like it has warped my mind. Like I know the moment that I saw that, I know the moment that I had such respect for music. I was 15 and I went to a concert and I had no idea what I was getting into, but I when I saw a band that was not even the headlining band at the moment and, they were next to last.

01:08:26:15 – 01:08:42:01
Brandon Adams
And I jumped over the rail and bouncer grabbed me by the arm and started to pull me out, and a wave of people comes. This big dude knocks out the bouncer, says, come with me, kid, and we drive out. We run all the way up to the front. I’m five five feet from the front row and it’s this band called Pearl jam.

01:08:42:03 – 01:09:00:12
Brandon Adams
Yeah, yeah, heroin on your knee near went where, where, where? And it just blew my mind. I can remember the moment because it changed me. And I think about like. And I just thought, those dudes have such power. They have such power to influence the world for free.

01:09:00:18 – 01:09:03:20
Cody Cresswell
People will punch security guards in the space for these guys.

01:09:03:22 – 01:09:20:05
Brandon Adams
But it wasn’t just getting me to that moment. I’m talking about when that guy hit that chord and it took my mind from like, oh, my parents music to my own. You know, when I and I grafted on to something had never heard before.

01:09:20:07 – 01:09:52:07
Cody Cresswell
I can relate to that. I think growing up, like, a lot in our house was, you know, 90s country Toby Keith and Kenny Chesney and things like that. And on my mom’s side. And then, you know, my dad said I was more like the Pink Floyd and Metallica’s. And so it was kind of a different mixture. And I never really got engulfed in much growing up in music, but I can I remember the first record that really resonated with me, probably like that was probably Purgatory by Tyler Childers when I heard that one, and before that record out aggressively.

01:09:52:10 – 01:09:53:24
Brandon Adams

01:09:54:01 – 01:10:16:04
Cody Cresswell
And he’s probably one of the most like influential and influential artists for me is Tyler Childers is, I guess, for a lot of people he is at this point, but that was probably the guy that influenced him and read South all this a town. I was kind of playing guitar. They were kind of coming up. So they influenced a lot of my writing styles, especially early on, but nothing really younger grabbed me like that.

01:10:16:04 – 01:10:23:11
Cody Cresswell
But I do remember when when I first heard that Tyler Childers Purgatory album, it kind of was the first one that really did, that to me, really.

01:10:23:13 – 01:10:47:23
Brandon Adams
It’s really cool when you hear something and you play it over and over and over and over and over, and I just saw this do all of the day called vision. And vision is it’s only available today. It’s available everywhere. But you’re only 50% of the population have this. And it’s when they hear music that moves them, they get chills like the physical chills.

01:10:48:00 – 01:10:51:03
Brandon Adams
And only 50% of the population can do this. And it made me so sad.

01:10:51:03 – 01:10:52:04
Cody Cresswell
For the other 50%.

01:10:52:04 – 01:11:11:04
Brandon Adams
Or the other 50% that never felt that. And then I read a stat right after that that said, 90% of musicians have this. So that means of the 50% of the population, those people were so moved by this that they just went to month. They just goes, I’m going to go be a musician. This thing affect me 90% of you.

01:11:11:04 – 01:11:31:17
Brandon Adams
So everyone that you go across just know that they’re feeling the same thing you are. Yeah. What a weird thing the human body is and and how it relates and what you what it means to people. I remember like listening to a song and it gave me this chill. And I remember I was at the gym and I was working out, and I’d already listened to it like 45 times in a row.

01:11:31:17 – 01:11:54:22
Brandon Adams
Right. And I finished my set and I was sitting there and that song came on the moment that kind of made me feel a certain way. And I put my headphones. I pushed them in just a little deeper, just so I could make sure I took out all the other noise and it was going on, and open my eyes like, this is when it passed and there’s somebody staring at me and they went, I wish I could feel something the way that you’re feeling.

01:11:54:22 – 01:12:15:15
Brandon Adams
Whatever you’re listening to right now. Yeah. In an incredible like that, I almost felt like I was burning a hole in the CD, you know, like the laser had to be on there so many times. It’s glowing red, you know, as it’s on there. But that dopamine that hits every time that something that you guys create out of thin air.

01:12:15:15 – 01:12:16:00
Brandon Callies
Yeah.

01:12:16:04 – 01:12:22:04
Brandon Adams
Causes this chemical reaction, which causes something else on someone. It’s just it’s incredible, you know?

01:12:22:08 – 01:12:50:07
Brandon Callies
Yeah, I think so. And it’s also, you know, really cool how it can affect you just in certain situations. A song that you may be heard 50,000 times. You know what I mean. In, in that moment. You know what I mean. Whatever it was. Yeah. It struck you or you know, a song I may be listening to, you know, and something happens in my life and now this song that I’ve heard a thousand times is very tied in this moment, you know that.

01:12:50:09 – 01:13:07:16
Brandon Adams
So the time capsule moment, which is so crazy, you guys get to put a stamp on someone’s timeline. I was in a car and I had, best time of my life, and. But this song was on. This is the one we’re playing. You guys are the benchmark. You guys are the are the code that people look at, and they’re like.

01:13:07:16 – 01:13:11:00
Brandon Adams
And that will come up in their life every time on and hear on. You’re like, yeah, it was me.

01:13:11:03 – 01:13:19:23
Brandon Callies
Well well encoded like that for me. I mean it’s you know like I said, I’m pointing back to earlier in the conversation, we were talking about missing home. It’s one of the first songs that.

01:13:19:23 – 01:13:23:08
Cody Cresswell
I heard totaled his car and this and I.

01:13:23:10 – 01:13:23:13
Brandon Adams
And.

01:13:23:13 – 01:13:54:16
Brandon Callies
That was one of the first songs that I heard. He was one of the first people I had heard when I moved here. And, I mean, I can honestly say, you know, my time here has been the best time of my life. And you know, those songs like that, you know, and are those are first core memories of what to me started the best, you know, period of my life.

01:13:54:18 – 01:13:59:02
Brandon Callies
In his songs tied to it and some of Romo’s and Michael Summers and you know.

01:13:59:04 – 01:14:15:14
Brandon Adams
So it’s got to be such a liberating feeling to, to do that or to be a part of that, you know, I guess you guys have seen the video where the guy’s driving down the road, and it’s a TikTok video with the guys driving down the road, and he gets into a wreck and he flips his car over and he’s sliding upside down.

01:14:15:14 – 01:14:33:09
Brandon Adams
He’s still on a seatbelt, and he pauses. He hangs for a second and all sudden, like, the best part of his song comes on and he reaches upside down and turns the knob and turns it up, and he just sits there and hangs and he’s like, I mean, even in your worst moment, like, this is could be total chaos.

01:14:33:11 – 01:14:35:21
Brandon Adams
This guy was like, oh, shoot, man, that’s my spot.

01:14:35:23 – 01:14:55:04
Brandon Callies
You know? Yeah, I like this song. Yeah. I mean, my great grandfather did that. He was in a bunch of polka bands. Yeah. And when he was on his way out, I mean, he he knew it, and he was requesting, you know, his, his favorite, polka music playing, you know? So it’s comforting.

01:14:55:06 – 01:15:05:07
Brandon Adams
Well, that’s going to lead my next question. I’m start scatter shooting here a little bit. You guys have to go outside of country music. What genre are you picking?

01:15:05:09 – 01:15:06:16
Brandon Adams
Polka.

01:15:06:18 – 01:15:09:07
Brandon Callies
Okay.

01:15:09:09 – 01:15:23:05
Cody Cresswell
I mean, I think I dabble in a little bit of, like, classic rock stuff already as it is. So I’d probably go more that route, even when I. When I do that, though, I sing those songs and they just come out the same, not necessarily the same every time, but I tend to have my own style, how I sound.

01:15:23:05 – 01:15:28:23
Cody Cresswell
So I’ll sing a, you know, old classic rock song, but it still kind of has my my sound to it, I guess.

01:15:28:23 – 01:15:30:23
Brandon Adams
Southern rock kind of music.

01:15:31:00 – 01:15:50:07
Cody Cresswell
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Somewhere in that. Well, you know, like your Tom Petty’s and, you know, Creedence and we do a Buffalo Springfield song and, and the band and stuff like that, you know, I enjoy playing that stuff a lot of times. And I wish was a lot better the guitar, because I do a lot more things. But that’s just that’ll come with time that.

01:15:50:07 – 01:15:53:17
Brandon Adams
CCR has got to be, mom’s influence.

01:15:53:19 – 01:16:01:13
Cody Cresswell
Yeah, probably a little bit of her. Yeah. I mean, I think everybody grew up here in CCR, so it’s hard not to. Yeah, it’s hard not to like them to until like, yeah.

01:16:01:15 – 01:16:04:04
Brandon Adams
I agree about you.

01:16:04:06 – 01:16:15:10
Brandon Callies
I, I really gravitate towards like, hardcore punk and metal. Okay. So I that’s 90% of what I’m listening to.

01:16:15:12 – 01:16:16:19
Brandon Adams
Really, like right now even.

01:16:16:20 – 01:16:36:22
Brandon Callies
Yeah. Right now, I mean, there’s, I’ve been obsessed over there’s a band called converge and they recently put out a records like my favorite of the year so far. But it’s, you know, it’s a little hard, to I just am a fan of the best version. There’s not one style of music that I don’t like. I just want the best version of it.

01:16:36:22 – 01:16:49:03
Brandon Callies
You know? Like, I love a lot of hip hop stuff, you know? And, so it’s hard for me to say. Yeah, you know, but I think that mostly what I would sort of gravitate towards is like, hardcore punk and metal.

01:16:49:05 – 01:16:56:09
Brandon Adams
Oh, that’s crazy. I mean, it kind of brings a question up for me of like.

01:16:56:11 – 01:17:20:23
Brandon Adams
I don’t know, you see these people that are really good and making a living doing something right, but their passion is something completely different in the same field. Right? Like, I’m known for making really loud, colorful shoes and shirts and hats and things like that. I look up, this is me all day long, drab of color, you know.

01:17:20:23 – 01:17:36:18
Brandon Adams
Nothing. Nothing is that loud, right? But I create stuff that is that crazy? So why why do our minds sometimes take us to or our jobs? Or is it because we’re successful in those areas? Or is it because that’s where our passion lies?

01:17:36:20 – 01:17:55:08
Brandon Callies
And I think it can get a little boring if your life is just very one dimensional, if you if you are only doing this thing, you know, and I can only it’s that when you’re going back to music and what you listen to, I am fully surrounded by, you know, country, rock and roll.

01:17:55:11 – 01:17:56:09
Brandon Adams
Like.

01:17:56:11 – 01:18:20:16
Brandon Callies
Singer songwriters like that. Everywhere I go, that’s what I hear. And so I tend to, because it’s such a huge part of my life and I love it, you know, to mix it up, you know, I tend to, if I’m playing a lot of, you know, country and, you know, rock and roll, I tend to just on my own go the total opposite because I’m not around it a lot.

01:18:20:16 – 01:18:39:00
Brandon Callies
And it’s something that I, that I love, you know, but on the, on the opposite, I mean, I was in heavy bands when I was younger. Yeah. And at that time when I was playing in heavy bands, I was listening to, you know, outlaw country music. And you know what? I mean? So it’s like I tend to always be doing that.

01:18:39:00 – 01:18:39:18
Brandon Callies
Yeah. Yeah.

01:18:39:24 – 01:18:42:18
Brandon Adams
Okay. Well that’s crazy. What about you? You do the same thing. Yeah.

01:18:42:18 – 01:18:43:17
Cody Cresswell
For the most part. I mean.

01:18:43:19 – 01:18:44:03
Brandon Callies
I.

01:18:44:05 – 01:18:48:15
Cody Cresswell
Stick to I’ve been on a big Biggie Smalls kick right now.

01:18:48:16 – 01:18:49:08
Brandon Adams
Hey.

01:18:49:08 – 01:19:06:23
Cody Cresswell
But, I just I like to find new stuff a lot, so I’ll just get in there and kind of hit recommended tracks on Spotify, or I’ll spend a little DJ and just kind of see what he comes up with. But at my, my stuff just all over the place, I don’t really have a specific. Yeah. John or that I listen to or anything.

01:19:06:23 – 01:19:08:09
Cody Cresswell
I think it’s really healthy.

01:19:08:11 – 01:19:42:24
Brandon Callies
It gives you like that, that perspective, you know, when you’re listening to different things and not just this one thing, because it’s easy to be derivative once you do that. Right. If you’re only listening to Tyler Childers, it’s damn near impossible not to write something that’s true. Just trying to sound exactly like Tyler Childers. Yeah, but if you’re listening to hip hop and metal and in punk and country and it’s you’re, I think you’re able to make something more unique because you have some perspective from all these different places.

01:19:42:24 – 01:20:08:01
Brandon Adams
Right? I’ve got, I’ve got a list of music, and on the list of music is every genre you can think of, right. And I get I don’t want to say I get nervous, but I don’t let a lot of people hear that start list, because that start list is very personal to me. There’s songs that have given me chills or songs or I’ve had a moment in my life, whatever it is, probably five, but this time it’s right.

01:20:08:01 – 01:20:25:11
Brandon Adams
500 songs deep, right? But it is so all over the map, and I find out that those songs come in like five similar song groups, right? Maybe five in a row. I’m kind of feeling some kind of way, right? I like that, I like that, I like that, and then I’ll sudden the next song will hit. It’ll be a different genre, different whatever.

01:20:25:11 – 01:20:30:22
Brandon Adams
And it’s like, I think people are going to think I’m probably going to hear it. They would think I was a little psychotic. You know.

01:20:30:23 – 01:20:34:14
Cody Cresswell
They just hit the shuffle button, just like all over the place. Yeah.

01:20:34:16 – 01:20:36:18
Brandon Adams
And that isn’t that is that kind of how you guys are?

01:20:36:18 – 01:20:49:21
Brandon Callies
Do you? Absolutely not that same playlist, man. It’s called in my phone. It’s called the coolest of the cool. That’s that’s my playlist of all of, like, my favorite songs like that. Yeah, but it’s super schizophrenic. I mean, it’s all over the place. You know.

01:20:49:23 – 01:21:09:08
Brandon Adams
I’ve got a I’ve got another list that’s going and says, my final ten. I went to a funeral home. I even get dark with this. But I went to a funeral and, listen to these guys talk about this. There was somebody that came up a point into this. They didn’t know him. They spoke about him, sang the same hymns that they sang for everyone.

01:21:09:08 – 01:21:31:14
Brandon Adams
It was like a production. Right. In our move on, whatever. And I thought that it was the most soulless funeral I’ve ever been to in my life, like no one knew him. Same songs. Rinse, repeat. See you later. And I, literally turned to my wife in the car and I said, don’t ever let anyone go up and talk at my funeral, that they didn’t know me.

01:21:31:16 – 01:21:55:10
Brandon Adams
I want stories being told by stupid. This guy was. And the nonsense we did together. And that’s what I want, right? But I also want ten songs to be played at my funeral. And these are the ten songs that moved me the most in my life. And I’ve started this list and I’ve gotten to nine. It’s, you know, I’ve gotten up to 13 and I’ve cut some out now or whatever, but by the time I pass, I want those ten songs.

01:21:55:10 – 01:22:02:13
Brandon Adams
And I was like, that song can not be played. As I said, for that reason only is the reason that song can be played, because I want people to know who I am right.

01:22:02:13 – 01:22:03:09
Cody Cresswell
To laugh, you know?

01:22:03:09 – 01:22:21:15
Brandon Adams
I want people to laugh. I want people to feel a genuine movement of who I know that human being, because I see these things in them. Yeah. You know, and that’s what music does to people, right? You guys have anything that’s like, these are my top ten of all times. Like you guys discuss that. Is that a thing?

01:22:21:15 – 01:22:24:12
Brandon Adams
Is this like, debated or is this just some weird thing.

01:22:24:12 – 01:22:27:06
Cody Cresswell
That I got that would take so much time to try to figure out? I feel like.

01:22:27:06 – 01:22:27:21
Brandon Adams
Yeah, yeah.

01:22:28:02 – 01:22:32:06
Brandon Callies
Because it’s a the goalpost moves. Yeah. You know, a lot of times for me it.

01:22:32:06 – 01:22:41:20
Cody Cresswell
Would be like you said, there certainly are certain days where you’re feeling, you know, I to setlist on one day it’d be just depending on my mood. It could be a completely different list couple of days later, you know?

01:22:41:22 – 01:22:50:10
Brandon Adams
Yeah. Yes. At the top ten and it’s in there. And so like, when I listen to it every once when I’m like, that one’s out, but this one’s back in on the. Yeah.

01:22:50:10 – 01:22:51:14
Cody Cresswell
It’s rotating in and out.

01:22:51:19 – 01:23:07:00
Brandon Adams
Yeah. I mean and I would say there’s 60% that are there for reasons because one is reminds me of my son and one reminds me of my wife, I wonder reminds me of my other son and or I did this moment or these were my friends in high school or whatever. Right. There’s things in there. There’s time capsules.

01:23:07:02 – 01:23:22:01
Brandon Adams
And hopefully when I pass, those people will think that was with me. That was our moment you know. And that’s what I’m looking for. And it’s not what’s my favorite of the day. But it’s like where was I and what time capsule did you play a part in.

01:23:22:02 – 01:23:28:24
Brandon Callies
You know I like that also like a challenge. So I’m probably gonna do that. I wish that like, next time I talk to you, please share.

01:23:28:24 – 01:23:29:11
Brandon Adams
I’ll probably.

01:23:29:11 – 01:23:30:07
Brandon Callies
Have a ten song.

01:23:30:07 – 01:23:36:00
Brandon Adams
List. I want to share mine with you, and you share yours with me. All right, I like that. I want to see this, and I. I’m put the challenge on. You do.

01:23:36:00 – 01:23:37:12
Cody Cresswell
I’ll do it. I’ll do my best.

01:23:37:14 – 01:23:51:14
Brandon Adams
Let me go on. You have to do it. But tomorrow’s not homework for tomorrow. But at the end of the day, too. Like, it’s really cool to see what means something to you. And you start when you do. Start curating this list, you find out like there’s there’s not as many that are that important to you as you think there are, you know?

01:23:51:14 – 01:23:51:22
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

01:23:51:22 – 01:23:56:02
Brandon Callies
When you really got to put them under the gun like that. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

01:23:56:04 – 01:24:00:21
Cody Cresswell
That’s what I’m doing right now is I’m trying to rack my brain and see where I even start on that. And then, you know.

01:24:00:23 – 01:24:14:17
Brandon Adams
Well, that’s cool. But if you had to choose whiskey, beer, wine, you know, what else is there? Seltzer for you. Beer. Whiskey. Whiskey or whiskey drinking?

01:24:14:19 – 01:24:23:06
Brandon Callies
I’m a bourbon fan. So any. I mean, Buffalo Trace, it’s go. Love that. You know that distillery maker’s huge fan?

01:24:23:08 – 01:24:28:09
Brandon Adams
Yeah. No little little cinnamon touch. Do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about you? You’re going to be good.

01:24:28:11 – 01:24:30:15
Cody Cresswell
I mean, I got a miller Lite. Miller Lite guy.

01:24:30:17 – 01:24:32:19
Brandon Adams
I was on, say, straight Texas country, baby.

01:24:32:19 – 01:24:35:19
Cody Cresswell
Yeah, I’m not picky, but that’s my first choice.

01:24:35:24 – 01:24:36:07
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

01:24:36:13 – 01:24:39:22
Brandon Callies
Miller Lite and green tea shots for this guy.

01:24:39:24 – 01:24:46:01
Cody Cresswell
That is, that’s. I will go to some bars and they’ll just set them down instantly. I don’t know if that’s good or not. It has decided.

01:24:46:01 – 01:24:58:20
Brandon Adams
It’s like he walks in there like ups. Yeah, I know, area 51, they open that bad boy up. What’s inside of it? They open it up. I’m saying when they open that.

01:24:58:22 – 01:25:00:01
Cody Cresswell
Oh, I thought you said they do that.

01:25:00:06 – 01:25:00:17
Brandon Callies
Like, what the hell am.

01:25:00:21 – 01:25:08:20
Brandon Adams
I trying to trick you? Yeah, I fell for it. Is there nothing in there, or is this. I mean, I imagine that.

01:25:08:22 – 01:25:21:16
Cody Cresswell
My thing with that is if we all know it’s there. So I feel like they wouldn’t put anything there, but I don’t know, it’s. I mean, there’s, I feel like there’s definitely aliens out there. Nothing’s off. That’s kind of where we’re going, but where they keep that area 51 since we all know that area 51 right there.

01:25:21:18 – 01:25:32:11
Brandon Adams
Well, I mean, if you put one foot on that territory, they’re going to blow it off. So I figure it’s pretty safe at that at that spot. But, maybe. No, no. What do you think?

01:25:32:13 – 01:25:33:14
Brandon Callies
Noah’s Ark.

01:25:33:16 – 01:25:42:22
Brandon Adams
Noah’s ark over there. Okay. I’ve never heard this route. I really like that. Honestly. Like. So you think they’re hiding, the biblical relics in there where people can’t find them?

01:25:42:22 – 01:25:43:20
Brandon Callies
Proof of the Lord.

01:25:43:24 – 01:26:03:10
Brandon Adams
Proof of the Lord. That’s really. That’s a great perspective I’ve never heard before. Yeah, because he. You wonder all the time, like, here’s these things that have happened over time. And, you know, I’ve heard of collectors buying things and burying them in, like, bunkers under the ground for, you know, to sell later on in life or whatever.

01:26:03:12 – 01:26:20:13
Brandon Adams
And they don’t want anybody to know they have them because people will really try to come get them, you know? And so, they don’t tell any stories about where they went or where they’re at, but big dumb collectors about a lot of these things up. So, that’s interesting to say, that area 51, that it’s, it’s protected underground for us or it’s kept away did not.

01:26:20:13 – 01:26:22:07
Brandon Callies
What you think they want you to think aliens.

01:26:22:07 – 01:26:23:21
Brandon Adams
They’d have to go.

01:26:23:21 – 01:26:25:20
Brandon Callies
Away from, you know.

01:26:25:22 – 01:26:29:13
Brandon Adams
What’s there from the Lord. From the Lord. Yeah. Very interesting. I have never.

01:26:29:13 – 01:26:33:17
Cody Cresswell
Thought about that area 51. Like, what if it’s actually anything in there?

01:26:33:19 – 01:26:49:23
Brandon Adams
You. I mean, you could think about it like somebody is, putting something out there that it’s a distraction, like you say, it’s empty and there’s nothing there, or they’re just trying to keep people on edge, one or the other, or there’s something really amazing inside of that deal. No, you know, pretty crazy.

01:26:50:00 – 01:26:54:06
Brandon Callies
I’ve never wanted to know. I like a mystery. Yeah. Some unknown, you know.

01:26:54:08 – 01:27:18:12
Brandon Adams
It’s cool. Well, I wanted to say this, like, first off, it’s been great talking to both of you guys. You know, as we’ve gone through this, like, I always, always love talking to musicians in general. Sometimes they’re outspoken, sometimes they’re quiet sometimes or whatever. But pulling information out of them, you know, about the why? I promise you, nine times out of ten, I’m gonna get a text in.

01:27:18:14 – 01:27:33:07
Brandon Adams
Two months ago, you know, I was thinking about something you said in this, and it caused me to do this, and that gives me one of these, like. Yeah, you know, like, I had a little bit of influence or whatever on something, but, I really do love the introspect that you guys have. And the reason that you’re doing your craft and it’s pretty special.

01:27:33:09 – 01:27:50:11
Brandon Adams
So whatever it is, I don’t care if you make $1 billion that or you make $2 at it. Just keep doing it because it keeps the world going around. You know, we need we need you guys in this world. So, you guys want to tell the world where they can find you?

01:27:50:13 – 01:27:53:16
Brandon Callies
Cody Cresswell, what is this podcast?

01:27:53:18 – 01:27:57:07
Cody Cresswell
You’re actually. If we pull this guy up.

01:27:57:09 – 01:28:03:05
Brandon Callies
I think everything’s just in at Cody Cresswell. Because you’ve got a name that’s pretty unique.

01:28:03:06 – 01:28:03:13
Cody Cresswell
Yeah.

01:28:03:18 – 01:28:07:23
Brandon Adams
Instagram. TikTok. Yeah. Facebook at Cody Cresswell. Yep.

01:28:07:23 – 01:28:15:09
Cody Cresswell
Just Cody Cresswell. So I’m off this weekend, but next week and, you know, I’ll be at Freebirds, on Friday. So I think that’s a really the only thing I got coming up worth mentioning.

01:28:15:10 – 01:28:16:07
Brandon Adams
Where’s Brewers.

01:28:16:09 – 01:28:19:09
Cody Cresswell
And Quinlan? Right there on Main Street. 109 West Main Street.

01:28:19:11 – 01:28:20:07
Brandon Adams
Okay.

01:28:20:09 – 01:28:29:04
Cody Cresswell
I’ll be there Friday night. Next Friday night on the 27th. Which, like you say, mean that place is great. Really good. Run, play and fun run to play. And every single time.

01:28:29:08 – 01:28:41:13
Brandon Callies
He’s there quite a bit Redbirds. And then there’s, I mean, further out because this probably won’t even be out, but I mean, you know, further out in April. In May. Oh, yeah. A there’s an in Deep Ellum, Hunt.

01:28:41:13 – 01:28:57:20
Cody Cresswell
County just run out with Michael Summers. Okay. The 24th. I think it’s the 24th. We’re opening it for, like, I just keep looking at them for for the answer insights. Just give me a nod. Just give me a nod. We’ll be open it for Josh Abbott, I think, on that one. So that one, that’ll be that’ll be a fun show.

01:28:57:22 – 01:29:02:16
Brandon Adams
Okay. Very cool. And you.

01:29:02:18 – 01:29:12:22
Brandon Callies
I don’t have just a lot, you know, singer songwriter stuff. It’s, you know, bass and, you know, backing him up and Braden Stewart and Zach Romo.

01:29:12:24 – 01:29:15:07
Brandon Adams
You know, they can find you at.

01:29:15:09 – 01:29:17:12
Brandon Callies
Brandon Kelly’s band.com.

01:29:17:14 – 01:29:20:03
Brandon Adams
You’re only fans page. You’re gonna put that I don’t know can see.

01:29:20:03 – 01:29:22:21
Brandon Callies
Yeah I don’t even want my wife to know about that.

01:29:22:23 – 01:29:25:04
Brandon Adams
It’s feedback baby sweet pics I promise I have it.

01:29:25:04 – 01:29:30:03
Brandon Callies
Everything’s pretty much the same at at Brandon Kelly’s. Like they’re pretty unique. Last name too.

01:29:30:03 – 01:29:39:24
Brandon Adams
So both y’all gotten away with it, I got stuck, I didn’t get that. So very cool. I just wanna say thank you both. Honestly. Like really, really an honor to talk to both of you guys and.

01:29:39:24 – 01:29:40:20
Cody Cresswell
Mushroom man, I enjoyed it.

01:29:40:20 – 01:29:51:01
Brandon Adams
And to watch this and see see where you guys go in your careers and everything else. So appreciate it. Until next time, everybody. That’s the blueprint.