Episode 80 – Guy Mezger

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Guy Mezger
My first, uh, 10, 11 fights, only one guy went the distance. You know, they started calling me the Sandman, ’cause I put people to sleep. They go, “Is that a good thing or a bad thing?” I go “You know what? Let’s just not call me Sandman- while I’m here in Japan.” pretty much just a trouble magnet. I got

00:00:17:17 – 00:00:33:07
Guy Mezger
You know, the, the main problem was is, like, I never really ever started trouble. I just didn’t get out of the way of it. I managed to get kicked out of 2 colleges, blew 2 full-ride scholarships. I would’ve been a doctor. If I could’ve been a doctor, I’d have been a doctor or a waiter. I mean, I, I, I prefer to heal people.

00:00:33:08 – 00:00:50:15
Boomer Cornwell
What I really want Dynamis to, to be known for is that warrior mentality. It’s really the, this persevering through no matter what, right? Like, hey, you know, this, this is, this is hard, this is tough. Um, you know, I’m, I’m getting older, whatever the case may be, but we’re gonna get through this. You know? And, and there’s I mean, failure’s not an option.

00:00:50:16 – 00:01:10:04
Boomer Cornwell
We really try to come and, and educate our patient. There’s a lot of really bad information out there. We talked about this last time. There’s a lot of bad information, and specifically around peptides. We are about preventative medicine, okay? The, the this whole society for the last We, we have been, we have been conditioned to, to treat sick medicine.

00:01:10:04 – 00:01:38:19
Boomer Cornwell
Wait till the condition happens, wait till you get sick, then go treat it with something after that, right? We have the exact opposite. Don’t get sick. Well, it, it, it should be. But we have the exact opposite mindset at Dynamis, is don’t get sick, okay? We’re not we don’t treat sick medicine, because we don’t want our patients to get sick. Come to us so you don’t get sick.

00:01:38:21 – 00:01:53:20
Brandon Adams
Welcome back to The Blueprint. Today we’ve got Boomer and The Sandman. They’re gonna be telling you a little bit. Both of them work for Dynamis, and they’re gonna tell you a little bit about health, wellness, and we’re gonna get into a little bit of Guy’s, uh, MMA story that he’s gonna tell us about. Punched a few people in the face.

00:01:53:21 – 00:02:06:22
Brandon Adams
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00:02:06:22 – 00:02:08:23
Brandon Adams
Thank you. I really appreciate y’all.

00:02:09:00 – 00:02:11:07
Guy Mezger
Absolutely. Thanks for having us. It’s good to be back.

00:02:11:09 – 00:02:21:19
Brandon Adams
Well, you know, at, at the very beginning of this, I debated whether I was gonna throw The Sandman out or not. I didn’t wanna catch a, a, you know, left hook coming out of that bad boy. So, uh, how, how’d you get the name The Sandman? Uh, actually, um, it was a girlfriend of mine who, uh, came, and she had kids and, and, um, and I, I don’t know if most people know the, you know, the whole Sandman le- thing.

00:02:21:21 – 00:02:45:16
Guy Mezger
Sandman comes and comes at night and sprinkles, uh, sand in your eyes, and it helps you sleep, gets you Dreamland, right? Anyway, so, uh, she goes, “You’re like The Sandman, but you don’t sprinkle, uh, sand in people’s eye to put them asleep.

00:02:45:16 – 00:03:06:18
Guy Mezger
You punch them to put them asleep.” So, uh, ’cause I had a string of knockouts. When I, when I first turned pro um, like my first I think my first, uh, 10, 11 fights, only one guy went the distance. And, um, which is another interesting story, why, why I went the distance. But, um, uh, so, you know, they started calling me The Sandman, ’cause I put people to sleep.

00:03:06:19 – 00:03:24:18
Guy Mezger
And so, um, the funny part was trying to explain that, that concept to the Japanese, ’cause they were like, uh, you know, ’cause you always do interviews, and they’re phenomenal markers of marketers over there. And so when I started fighting over there, man, they already knew all sorts of stuff about me I didn’t realize was ac- actually out there.

00:03:24:19 – 00:03:44:19
Guy Mezger
And this is the ’90s, so it’s not as readily available, this information, like it is today. And they know a lot about me. And they go, “So Sandman, what, what, what is that?” And so I tried to go, “Well, Sandman is kinda like a mythological creature, sort of like an elf of some sort, you know, who comes in, and he sprinkles sand in children’s eyes, uh, and it makes them go to sleep.”

00:03:44:19 – 00:04:06:23
Guy Mezger
And they’re like I could tell they weren’t kinda getting it, ’cause they look, they go, “Is that a good thing or a bad thing?” I go- “You know what? Let’s just not call me Sandman- while I’m here in Japan. I’ll survive without that.” “I’ll survive without that hon- that, that, that nickname.” So, but, uh, yeah. Anyway, so it was kinda funny trying to explain, uh, the whole concept of, uh, European, uh, mythology to 00:04:07:00 – 00:04:22:13
Brandon Adams
To, to the Japanese. Well, the cool thing is, is that, uh, most of my audience knows Boomer. Boomer’s come on and talk about you know, some of the health and wellness. And, and, uh, he has a company called Dynamis that you’re, you’re a part of as well. And, um, but I don’t think many people know who you are or what, what’s, what you got going on.

00:04:22:13 – 00:04:29:01
Brandon Adams
I’m sure they’ve heard your name and, and everything else, because- Well, that’s- just of the legendary, uh status that you carry.

00:04:29:01 – 00:04:48:00
Guy Mezger
No, I’m not a legend yet. And I’ll tell you why, guys. See, one d- one day, this is probably about a good 15 years ago, um, m- my wife kept telling me to take the trash out, right? And I’m in the middle of doing some work and sitting in the, in the living room. And she, I don’t know, 4 or 5 times, she’s like, “Babe, you need to take the trash out.”

00:04:48:00 – 00:05:02:07
Guy Mezger
I go, “I hear you, babe. I’ll take it out in a minute.” I’m in the middle of something, know. Doorbell rings, and it’s a, uh, it’s a UPS guy, and I actually have to sign something. So you know, I just scribble, and he goes, “Uh, uh, how do you spell your name? ‘Cause I can’t, you know, ’cause you can’t read it.”

00:05:02:08 – 00:05:19:12
Guy Mezger
And he goes, “Oh, it’s M-E-Z-G-E-R.” He goes, “Mezger.” goes, “Dude, you’re not Guy Mezger, are you?” And I was like, “Yeah.” And he goes, “Oh my God, you’re a legend.” I was like very flattered. Then my wife comes up with the trash, throws it in my hands, goes, “A legend has to take out the trash.” I’m like- I’m like, “What? I was just gonna take the trash out.”

00:05:19:12 – 00:05:30:03
Guy Mezger
So the moment that I’m off trash duty, I’ll call myself a legend, but until then- I’m not a legend. So you’re never gonna be a legend is what you’re saying. I’m never gonna be a legend not, not until I d- ca- take the trash out anymore.

00:05:30:05 – 00:05:32:06
Brandon Adams
You taking the trash out? You mow your own yard?

00:05:32:07 – 00:05:34:13
Guy Mezger
Nah, that I do not do.

00:05:34:14 – 00:05:38:04
Brandon Adams
Well, you’re part legend then. You’re halfway there. I’m still waiting on that, that scenario.

00:05:38:05 – 00:05:55:03
Guy Mezger
Well, you know, to be honest, it’s like, um, my wife spends a ridiculous amount of money on our, on our landscaping, you know? It’s beautiful, but I don’t even bother to look at the bill anymore, ’cause it just would Infuriate. Yeah, it would cause my blood pressure to go up. So- You’re, you’re too busy making money to pay for that landscaping.

00:05:55:05 – 00:05:57:19
Guy Mezger
Yeah, exactly. I don’t have time to look at the bills 00:05:57:20 – 00:06:02:18
Brandon Adams
’cause I’m too busy. I heard this deal the other day, and it said, uh, “My wife thinks she’s saving me money, ’cause she found something on sale.”

00:06:02:19 – 00:06:03:02
Guy Mezger
Oh, I know.

00:06:03:02 – 00:06:14:24
Brandon Adams
And it’s like, I don’t understand this. And she goes, “Well, let me break this down to you. I’m gonna buy it.”I’m doing you a favor by buying it on sale. And I thought, “Well, that math does kinda work. I get that.” ‘Cause they are gonna get it.

00:06:14:24 – 00:06:31:16
Guy Mezger
I, I think the concept works. My wife does the exact same thing, right? “No, the, but the more I buy, the more I save.” I’m like, “I don’t really think that’s how math works.” Well, uh, you see Okay, guys. So, ’cause fundamentally, you guys look at We look at things differently, okay? So, like, okay, so a, a man will sit there and go get, like, a custom-made suit, right?

00:06:31:16 – 00:06:48:11
Guy Mezger
So, you know, and his buddy’ll go, “Man, that’s an awesome looking suit.” He goes, “It ought to be. It’s custom-made.” You know, he’ll sit there, “This, you know, this is Chinese silk, and blah, blah, blah. You know, it cost me, you know, $800,” like this. And, uh, you know, and he’s bragging about how much money he spent on this one suit.

00:06:48:14 – 00:07:05:14
Guy Mezger
Now, a woman, on the other hand Said to her girlfriend, go, “Oh, those are great rings earrings, aren’t they? They’re great. They were on sale. They were only 25 bucks.” “And because I saved that, I got this necklace. You see this?” “15 bucks.” So they spent the same $800. It’s just that their, their thing is like, how, how, how do they maneuver it so, uh- they get a good deal on that.

00:07:05:15 – 00:07:14:22
Brandon Adams
Yeah, 100%. Well, I’ll, I’ll ask this question. Uh, you know, Guy, where did you grow up? Where did Where was, where was baby Sandman from? Uh, baby Sandman.

00:07:14:24 – 00:07:33:04
Guy Mezger
Well, I w- Well, okay, I’ll give you a quick rendition. We’ll kind of go is I was born in Houston, Texas. , believe it or not. I was the n- New Year’s baby of Houston, Texas. Apparently there weren’t a lot of babies born in Houston, Texas on the 1st, because I was born, like, 5:00 in the a- evening or something like that.

00:07:33:06 – 00:07:57:00
Guy Mezger
So, uh But anyways, it consisted The, the award consisted basically of, uh, free diapers and, uh, and a g- and a Guy Mezger Day for, uh, Houston, Texas. Uh, 1968. I missed that. Um, those of you guys around then, you can probably appreciate that day. It was a monumental one. But, uh, but, uh, anyway, so we, we moved very qu- uh, shortly, a couple I guess about 3 years old or so, we moved to Connecticut.

00:07:57:00 – 00:08:03:18
Guy Mezger
And I lived in Connecticut, uh, for a couple years, uh, 2 different places, and then we moved to Pennsylvania.

00:08:03:19 – 00:08:04:05
Brandon Adams
Who’s we, by the way?

00:08:04:05 – 00:08:09:10
Guy Mezger
Uh, my family. Uh, so it’d be my, my mom, my dad, and, uh, my 3 brothers.

00:08:09:11 – 00:08:10:08
Brandon Adams
Older?

00:08:10:14 – 00:08:21:03
Guy Mezger
Uh, I have one older brother and 2 younger brothers. In fact, m- my younger brothers are twins, and we are exactly 10 months apart to the day. I was born January 1st, 1968. They were born November 1st, ’68.

00:08:21:04 – 00:08:22:03
Brandon Adams
E- they were.

00:08:22:05 – 00:08:24:21
Guy Mezger
And, um, yeah.

00:08:24:23 – 00:08:26:16
Brandon Adams
What do you call that, Irish twins?

00:08:26:18 – 00:08:27:15
Guy Mezger
I think is what it is. Well, Irish triplets.

00:08:27:16 – 00:08:28:14
Brandon Adams
Oh, Irish triplets, then, yeah.

00:08:28:16 – 00:08:49:22
Guy Mezger
Ir- Irish, yeah, Irish twins if it’s within 10 months. But, and, uh, so we, so we moved to, to Pennsylvania, and then, um, we moved back to Texas, and we moved And I spent most of my life doing that. Um, and that was awesome.

00:08:49:22 – 00:09:05:12
Guy Mezger
Uh, awesome. One of my best, best memories of my entire life was that, that, uh, living there. And then we moved back to Texas. And even though my, my life consists of doing it Well, not so much now, but it did consist of a tremendous amount of travel. I’ve always, uh, came home. Dallas is always home. It’s a, it’s a nice place to live.

00:09:05:13 – 00:09:15:24
Guy Mezger
I mean, I mean, you guys live close enough to Dallas to appreciate it. And, you know, uh, I’ve, uh, you know, raised my b- my babies here. And so I feel I like it. It’s home.

00:09:16:03 – 00:09:26:06
Brandon Adams
So when you were, you were You said you started out, uh, in Houston, and at 3 you moved over. At what point did you start to pick up Were you in sports? Were you in baseball? Were you in football?

00:09:26:11 – 00:09:26:18
Guy Mezger
Yeah, yeah.

00:09:26:23 – 00:09:29:11
Brandon Adams
Or- Yeah, yeah. I, I- Or did you just come out the womb throwing?

00:09:29:13 – 00:10:00:11
Guy Mezger
No, actually, believe it or not, man, I got a weird dichotomy, because I, I don’t actually like hurting people. I got a, a You know, I, I’m It, it kind of, um, it, it kind of, uh, interferes with some of my, my, my personal spiritual values and, uh, religious values. And, um, but, um, for some reason I’m really good at it. And I was a natural. And, you know And the difference is, is like, uh, uh, you know, I’m not sure how old you are, but, you know, when you’re born in the ’60s, raised in the ’70s and ’80s, man, you fought all the time.

00:10:00:13 – 00:10:18:14
Guy Mezger
It was just the way it goes. I mean, we moved every 2 years. In fact, I didn’t live in a single place more than two and a half years, uh, until I moved in with a girlfriend when I was in my mid-20s. I lived with her for 3 years. And then, um, uh, and then, um, you know, I got married, uh, you know, after that, and then that poor woman’s just stuck with me for 22 years.

00:10:18:14 – 00:10:31:16
Guy Mezger
But, um, but anyway, so, you know, I Y- you just fought a lot. You know, you just got Push came to shove, and you know, it was a testing ground, and you know, you didn’t get, uh- What your dad taught you to.

00:10:31:19 – 00:10:33:14
Brandon Adams
What your dad taught you to.

00:10:33:16 – 00:11:03:09
Guy Mezger
M- m- well, well, the problem is my father wasn’t W- was, uh, wa- was a, was a, um, an abusive man. And, um, know, and it, it breeds, uh Well, you will find most guys that fight and, and what I found with a lot of guys that are succeed well in things like special forces and, and more physical sports, um, they, they tend to have a rough upbringing. Um, it’s like I was not ever scared to fight, ’cause my father’s 6’5″, looks like Clint Eastwood with, uh, black hair and, and, uh, he’s a scary individual.

00:11:03:10 – 00:11:21:20
Guy Mezger
My father’s a scary, scary man. And, um, so when I had to face him down every night it was like, “Yeah, okay. S- Mm. “Some 5thgrader’s gonna kick my ass.

00:11:21:21 – 00:11:23:08
Brandon Adams
“Yeah, good luck.”

00:11:23:09 – 00:11:56:12
Guy Mezger
‘Cause, you know. And so, you know, I was never afraid to fight because of that, you know? And, um, you know, and But I was always, you know Athletics was because your parents are divorced.

00:11:56:14 – 00:12:19:09
Guy Mezger
I mean, that’s completely jacked up to say that. All right? You know, I mean, we, we lived on difficult times. You know, my mom, uh, you know, she Oh, my God, my mom, she deserves a medal. Uh, she, she did an amazing job. She raised 4 boys. None of us went to prison.

00:12:19:11 – 00:12:49:09
Guy Mezger
Like, I always tell people I’m the least successful one in my family, and I’ve done pretty good. And, um, you know, and, uh, sh- you know, she just did a really good job. But we, we grew up, you know, in a economically strained, you know, thing, and we lived in areas that weren’t, you know? And, um, so it made me very, very self-conscious you know, because I had the hand-me-down clothing, you know? Um, and, um, you know, and I The funny part was I didn’t realize I was poor until the 7th grade.

00:12:49:11 – 00:12:54:10
Guy Mezger
And then all my classmates decided to point that out to me. You know, and it’s like- Kids are, kids are cruel, man.

00:12:54:10 – 00:12:55:23
Brandon Adams
Kids are kids are cruel, man. Oh.

00:12:55:24 – 00:13:21:04
Guy Mezger
Oh, my God. That was seventh and eighth grade for me. And, um, you know, but, um, w- what I was good at was athletics. And, like, I, I played them all. I was a football player. I was a basket- or not a basketballer, but a baseball player. I, I swam, I ran track and I wrestled. Uh, eventually I did, started doing karate and all the stuff like that. And so And I was good at it.

00:13:21:10 – 00:13:43:09
Guy Mezger
And in my freshman year in high school, I lettered in, uh, football. I was one of 3 athletes in the state of Washington that was all-district that were freshmen. Um, I was, uh, you know, I was, uh, I lettered in baseball, I lettered in swimming, I lettered in track. And it’s interesting, I didn’t letter in wrestling, and that’s where I went to college on.

00:13:43:09 – 00:14:03:08
Guy Mezger
Went to college on a wrestling scholarship. But, um, you know, because of my Y- yeah, I’ll be honest, I mean, you know, I really didn’t get over the self-esteem issues till I was like an adult. I mean, like- Oh like an older adult.

00:14:03:09 – 00:14:15:09
Brandon Adams
Um- Was it, was it something that made you feel like you were less than because of the materialistic things, or you just thought because of the materialistic things, it also added up to you as a human being was a little less?

00:14:15:11 – 00:14:33:11
Guy Mezger
Well, that’s, uh, it’s almost, uh, you know, opposite side of the same coin, you know what I mean? When you say that like that. Because really, yeah, I mean, what it was was, you know, you know A- and we’re talking the ’80s, you know, so it was very, you know, we were coming out of a very superficial time our lives.

00:14:33:11 – 00:14:50:09
Guy Mezger
And it was, it was all of it. I mean, listen, I mean, I Every single one of you guys can probably remember every 40-year-old guy in 1984 when the new Corvette body came out who had their convertible red, red Corvette. Every dad had one of those.

00:14:50:09 – 00:15:14:02
Guy Mezger
And so, you know, the m- the, you know, m- my main problem i- in most of my life was I focused on what I didn’t have versus all the blessings that I did have. And I had some amazing blessings. Like, I mean, yes, not, not a huge amount of material blessings, um, but you know, like I said, I, I built my most of my self-esteem on being a, a good athlete.

00:15:14:04 – 00:15:39:09
Guy Mezger
And so being the champ was everything. It’d be funny, like my, like they were like National Honor Roll Society and, and all these different stuff that they, they I, I don’t know if you guys are familiar with, uh, a organization called Mensa but it’s, it’s for people with IQs over like 150 or something.

00:15:39:10 – 00:15:54:02
Guy Mezger
But they got all the invitations to join that, but I didn’t. And, uh, you know, my mom would be like, “John and Ken and Marshall, they’re all straight A students, National Honor Roll Society this, and Guy, he is so athletic, it’s awesome.”

00:15:54:03 – 00:15:55:04
Boomer Cornwell
Find some way to compliment you?

00:15:55:05 – 00:16:27:19
Guy Mezger
A- a- and, well, my mom was always, always like And, um, anyway, so-The problem with team sports is that you need a team to win. And I wanted to win too much, and I was not comfortable losing. And so I, I gravitated more to the individual sports, and I was just And a poor kid, like wrestling and boxing and stuff like that, that’s, those are poor man sports.

00:16:27:19 – 00:16:48:01
Guy Mezger
And I, I gravitated to them because I was, you know, a state champion this, and I was, I was, you know, like I said, in karate I was really good. Like, I went 3, 4 years completely undefeated, you know? And, uh, then I, then I got beat once, and then I went 2 years completely undefeated 00:16:48:01 – 00:17:06:00
Guy Mezger
and I got beat again, and then I turned pro. And, uh, so But I built, you know, my, my, my self-esteem was built up in that. You know what I mean? And so I went through kind of an interesting time when I went to college, was, like, I started, like, I wasn’t the ace wrestler, you know? Everybody, everybody was kicking my ass, and, uh, that, that was new.

00:17:06:02 – 00:17:26:14
Guy Mezger
And so I ended up getting in a lot of trouble. Like, from age 17 to 20 was like a bad Miami Vice rerun. I mean, I managed to get shot. I had been in trouble with the law, like really a lot of trouble with the law.

00:17:26:16 – 00:17:34:00
Guy Mezger
I’ve been r- intentionally run over on my motorcycle. I mean, crazy stuff right? You know what I mean?

00:17:34:01 – 00:17:39:06
Brandon Adams
Are you out looking for trouble at this point? Is this the mindset for what you’re doing? Or are you just like- I just- I’m bulletproof?

00:17:39:12 – 00:18:07:19
Guy Mezger
Uh, pr- I’m, I, I was pretty much just a trouble magnet. Like, I, you know, the, the main problem was is, like, I never really ever started trouble. I just didn’t get out of the way of it. That was the problem. You know what I mean? And so th- that, that was a problem. And, uh, by age 20, I was in s- you know, I, I managed to get kicked out of 2 colleges, you know, you know, b- blew 2 full-ride scholarships. Um, you know, again, in and out of trouble with the law.

00:18:07:20 – 00:18:29:19
Guy Mezger
Financially, you know, got nothing going on. And, um, you know, and there was an opportunity to turn pro as a fighter. And, um, you know, so I had this big, you know my mom’s gonna lose her mind when she says it,” ’cause my mom had a hard time just watching me do karate, had a hard time watching me wrestling, let alone, you know, get in the boxing, kickboxing ring.

00:18:29:19 – 00:18:51:03
Guy Mezger
And thought, “You know, I’m gonna get some kickback from there. My brothers, they’re, you know, they’re not gonna be supportive,” and, you know, they’re, they’re way too smart, you know? These guys are the smart guys of And so I, you know, I have this big sit-down with the family, and I have this big announcement to make.

00:18:51:05 – 00:19:25:18
Guy Mezger
I’m like, “What?” “Seriously?” And, you know, I always tell people, like, “When professional fighting looks like a good thing, you’re probably in a bad place in life.” And, uh, and, and, uh, you know, and anyways, it, it turned out to be a good thing for me because it, you know, it brought back the discipline that I, that I was lacking. You know, you know, obviously it started with the, uh, athletic, dis- discipline, but it you know how that leaks into the rest of your life.

00:19:25:18 – 00:19:44:18
Guy Mezger
And, um, you know, just my life was very structured, and, uh, which normally wasn’t. You know, that, that saved me. I mean, my martial art practice, my, my, my turning pro actually probably saved my life. I mean, and I’m not exaggerating. I mean, I mean, a lot of people say stuff like that, and they don’t mean it.

00:19:44:19 – 00:19:45:15
Guy Mezger
no, I mean it.

00:19:45:16 – 00:20:00:21
Brandon Adams
Well, I’m gonna say this before we carry on to that part of it. You, you talk about you were kicked out of 2 schools already, but you went for wrestling. You ended up being something s- you would need a lot of schooling to, to, to do.

00:20:00:22 – 00:20:03:11
Guy Mezger
Well, that wasn’t my intention- Yeah.

00:20:03:13 – 00:20:15:21
Brandon Adams
What was, what was the Was it just general business, or were you like, “I really wanna focus on this thing ’cause I love it, this is who I am”?

00:20:15:23 – 00:20:16:19
Guy Mezger
Being a teacher.

00:20:16:20 – 00:20:17:17
Brandon Adams
Okay.

00:20:17:19 – 00:20:25:21
Guy Mezger
You know, I f- you know, I wanted to be a teacher. Uh, what I, I realized after doing student teaching that probably wouldn’t work out good for me. Just, you know.

00:20:25:21 – 00:20:27:09
Brandon Adams
But, um, I enjoyed teaching. Snatch ’em up?

00:20:27:13 – 00:20:47:10
Guy Mezger
well, to be honest, man, um, I could tell you a crazy story about don’t know how crazy you wanna get into stories, but- Let’s get it. Well, all right, so I was doing student teaching, and they had this program where you started re- real, real early in your teaching, teaching. Nor- normally they start t- student teaching like your third year. Well, they actually started you on your

00:20:47:12 – 00:21:12:14
Guy Mezger
Well, you could on your second semester or third semester. So on my third semester I said, “I’m gonna do some student te- student teaching.” Right? I wanted to. I enjoyed that. And, uh, so they, uh believe it or not, I ended up getting into a school called Carpenter Middle School, and I went to Carpenter Middle School. And y- and so I was gonna t- you know, I was supposed to teach history, but they didn’t have a t- history section.

00:21:12:15 – 00:21:31:04
Guy Mezger
They had s- uh, they had a special ed section open. And I wouldn’t really train for special ed, but I was like, “All right, you know, I’ll do it.” And so I went in there, and, um, you know, and I fell in love with these kids. You know? It just Y- you know, I mean, I, I know what it’s like to be, you know, kinda like I know what it’s like to be the underdog, right?

00:21:31:05 – 00:21:52:13
Guy Mezger
And all these kids are, like, considered underdogs. You know, and they’re all You know, and to be honest, I mean, we still marginalize them a lot, but a lot less now. And, uh, and so, you know, you can’t help but, like, you know wanna root for them. And so I had one little boy who, a good kid, you know, just grew up, you know, not in a great place and, and, um, but a sweet kid.

00:21:52:13 – 00:22:10:19
Guy Mezger
And he, and he kept coming late to my class like 3 or 4 times. I was like, “Can’t be late to class. I mean, I’ve let you slide so much.” I mean, the second tardy, you know, the third tardy you’re supposed to get a detention. You know, you’re like on 5 or 6 lates, you know. And he’s like, got” “Next time you gotta be late, I gotta give you a detention, man.

00:22:10:19 – 00:22:30:07
Guy Mezger
You just can’t be late.” And he just starts crying, and this is a tough kid. And so I’m like, you know, I’m only, like, I don’t know, maybe 19 at the time. Yeah, I was like 19, you know. And it was like, I was like, uh, you know, I didn’t know how to handle that. And, you know, I mean, I was a kind of emotional kid myself, and so I’m, like, kind of freaking out.

00:22:30:07 – 00:22:48:17
Guy Mezger
So I sit down and listen to his story. So the story was Now, you gotta understand they still had corporal punishment. And, um, I always love these people that talk about corporal pun- oh, and kids like, “No, anybody who wants corporal punishment is an asshole.” Now, I’m telling you that right now, you’re an asshole if you endorse corporal punishment in school.

00:22:48:18 – 00:23:12:24
Guy Mezger
And s- because it’s not, it’s not administered fairly. Football ki- the, good football players, they never get paddled. You know what I mean? The, you know, the, the, the kids with the money, they don’t get paddled. You know who gets paddled, man? kids who probably need the least amount of paddling gets paddled. Guys like me you know, who every time they hit me, all I could think of is scratching their eyeballs out.

00:23:13:00 – 00:23:31:10
Guy Mezger
And, um, so anyway, so this kid’s, this kid has a, has a condition where he can remember, like, locker combination. Like, he’ll remember it. One day he’ll remember his locker combination, the very next day he can’t. And it’s no fault of his own. This is just a disorder he has with the way he, he, he, he catalogs stuff in your brain.

00:23:31:10 – 00:23:55:02
Guy Mezger
And, um, so he And so the coaches got irritated with that, and they s- they, they, they would, uh, give him pad- they would paddle him.

00:23:55:04 – 00:24:14:06
Guy Mezger
And this is 8th grade. you cry getting paddled, man, you’re, you know I mean, it was, like, humiliation at a level that is, like, hard to come back from. And so he started crying, and he said, “Man, I just couldn’t I, I either had to get paddles or I had to run.

00:24:14:06 – 00:24:29:17
Guy Mezger
So I was running. So I, I run now, and that’s why I’m late.” So I’m like, “Not a problem. I’ll handle this. I’ll go down and talk to your coach, explain to him what the d- deal is. So I go down there. In fact, the coach, who was an assistant coach when I was in school, was now the head football coach, C- Coach Lawrence, who, Coach Lawrence is an asshole, just so you guys know.

00:24:29:22 – 00:24:36:06
Guy Mezger
And, um, and, uh- Shout-out.

00:24:36:09 – 00:24:37:01
Brandon Adams
Shout out.

00:24:37:03 – 00:24:37:15
Guy Mezger
Yeah, shout.

00:24:37:16 – 00:24:38:15
Brandon Adams
Yeah, shout-out to Coach Lawrence.

00:24:38:16 – 00:24:39:07
Boomer Cornwell
If he’s watching this.

00:24:39:09 – 00:24:44:04
Guy Mezger
And, uh, yeah hopefully you’re watching. Uh, a- anyway, so, um, I went there.

00:24:44:06 – 00:24:47:23
Guy Mezger
Anyway. So.

00:24:48:00 – 00:25:06:05
Guy Mezger
And I mean, I, I 0 this is back in the day, man, you didn’t have internet access. So I mean, I literally went to the library, xeroxed out of the encyclopedia his kid’s condition like this. I highlighted it. I took some notes like this. You know, I was, got this whole presentation, ’cause yeah, I knew Coach Lawrence. You know, I knew he was kind of a difficult guy, but I didn’t realize what a jerk he was.

00:25:06:06 – 00:25:27:16
Guy Mezger
And, uh, so I go there, and, uh, you know, I make my app- and I walk in there, and just totally disrespected me. And you gotta understand something, man, I’m, like, 19 years old, man. I was a hothead, you know. And if you disrespected me, there was a good chance you were gonna get your teeth loosened. And, uh, and, uh, so I’m sitting there, and th- they’re just disr- and he, he’s just not even

00:25:27:18 – 00:25:49:07
Guy Mezger
He’s w- reading the newspaper. I’m talking to him. He’s not even put his newspaper down. And, uh, I snapped. I’ll be honest. , 0 not one of my prouder moments, I’ll give that. Should’ve handled it differently. But, uh, I snapped, and I started to walk out, and they were, like, laughing.

00:25:49:07 – 00:25:55:12
Guy Mezger
And I grabbed these chairs, you know those plastic metal chairs that they have? You know, it’s a deadly weapon by the way.

00:25:55:14 – 00:25:57:16
Boomer Cornwell
And I took that- Solid. Especially the old ones, man 00:25:57:21 – 00:26:13:20
Guy Mezger
from the ’80s. I, I, I picked that up, and I went, boom. I threw it at the 2 s- guys laughing at me, and they’re ducking down like this. And I went, “Ah,” man, I got up in Coach Lawrence’s face. And he’s this short, fat guy.And I get up in his face, I said, I said, “You made a mistake, dude.” He goes, “Now let me explain to you, coach.”

00:26:13:20 – 00:26:32:19
Guy Mezger
I go, I go, “I was state, 3time state champion. I’m state national world karate champion.” I go, “I’m an undefeated pro- uh, amateur boxer.” Said, “I will kick your if you ever lay a hand on this kid again.” I looked over at these guys. “You guys wanna do something?”

00:26:32:20 – 00:26:43:07
Guy Mezger
I mean, I’m literally calling out these guys. And suddenly sanity came back to me. I’m like, “Oh my God. What am I gonna do?” And I was like, lost my mind.”

00:26:43:07 – 00:26:44:01
Brandon Adams
Gotta find another job.

00:26:44:02 – 00:26:55:00
Guy Mezger
And so I was like So I leave, and I go to my advisor, and I told her what happened. I, like I just said, “Listen.” I, I mean, I literally, I started emptying my desk.

00:26:55:03 – 00:26:55:07
Boomer Cornwell
You.

00:26:55:07 – 00:27:04:00
Guy Mezger
You know? I mean, I realize, I mean, I’m hoping I’m not gonna go to jail. And um, you know, and um, you know, even before I could leave, you know, they

00:27:04:02 – 00:27:23:17
Guy Mezger
You know, I, I had a meeting with the, you know, they, they had a police officer, the whole 9 yards. And uh, you know, I dealt with it. You know, I was like, “Yeah, I was out of line. And so were they. They’re hitting a kid who doesn’t, can’t con- you know, do his thing, you know?” I mean, I go, I tried to explain to them. They’re being rude like this.

00:27:23:17 – 00:27:41:19
Guy Mezger
I go, uh, you know. And anyway, so you know, so I’m leaving. But here’s the crazy part. I’m walking out of there, and I have to go back up to my, uh, uh, my room to get my stuff, all the teachers came out, and they’re high-fiving me. Everyone’s going, “Oh man, I’ve been wanting to do that so bad.”

00:27:41:21 – 00:27:59:04
Guy Mezger
And so I said, “Okay, I’m gonna press my luck.” So after putting all my stuff back in the, um, in my car, I ran back down to the gym. And I explained to Coach Lawrence that this ain’t over. And this kid better not have a hand laid on him. I said, “I will come here, and it’ll be just me, you,” and I said, “Uh, you can bring your girlfriends too.

00:27:59:04 – 00:28:08:03
Guy Mezger
I don’t care.” And uh, you know, so then I realized teaching’s probably not in the cards for me.

00:28:08:05 – 00:28:09:03
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

00:28:09:05 – 00:28:10:07
Guy Mezger
I came to that realization too.

00:28:10:08 – 00:28:13:15
Brandon Adams
Um- So I went into kickboxing.

00:28:13:17 – 00:28:35:10
Guy Mezger
Well, I- shortly thereafter And so well, long story short, uh, what happened was in that time, after, after that, I got shot in a drive-by, uh, by accident. I mean, me and my friend just walked into a bad scene. And um, um, you know, and this is back before they had protected scholarships. So they cut me to half scholarship.

00:28:35:10 – 00:29:05:21
Guy Mezger
I’m, I’m going to school in, um, uh, in, uh, um, southern Illinois. You know, in Edwardsville, Illinois. And so I, I couldn’t afford to live there. So I came back, and uh, you know, I, I tried to stay in school at the, you know, at the Brookhaven and But I just, uh, just lacked the discipline and, you know, and um, you know, to be honest, was feeling sorry for myself and just got on a bad track on things. didn’t go back to school till I was, uh, 35 years old.

00:29:05:23 – 00:29:24:20
Brandon Adams
Crazy. And when you see that and you wanna stop everything from being taken advantage of or being You, you wanna be that guy, right?

00:29:24:21 – 00:29:46:16
Brandon Adams
And I, I see it in your eyes. I see it when you’re talking. I see it the way you have to take a breath between words sometimes because it’s still there. And, and uh, it’s pretty impressive, you know, to see somebody that’s still, you know, as they’re getting older and going through, you know, the understanding of who they are, like to, to sit back and think about those kind of things.

00:29:46:16 – 00:29:47:20
Brandon Adams
That’s, that’s, that’s pretty cool.

00:29:47:21 – 00:30:09:09
Guy Mezger
I just don’t want other people to have the same issues, you know? ‘Cause here, here’s the problem. You become very overprotective, or you become a bully yourself, And uh, I became, like crazy over I, I can’t stand bullies. Same.

00:30:09:12 – 00:30:42:21
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? And you know, it didn’t end up good for him. And uh, you know, and I’m 58 years old. You know what I mean? It’s like, you know, one of these days somebody’s gonna whoop my ass You know, for when I step up. But you know, but, but I still think that the, the p- I, I You know, for me, I think the problem that we, we do is, and I think, you know, it is, is that not enough people s- step up when they know they should because they’re, they’re, they’re, they’re afraid. You know, and I get it.

00:30:42:23 – 00:30:59:02
Guy Mezger
You know, I, I get the idea of physically being afraid of somebody, you know what I mean? I get it. I understand that. You know, I understand how that is, but, you know, um, you know, there are some brave souls out there who aren’t. Guy Mezger who can fight, who still stand up for people. Still, still step up and do the thing like that.

00:30:59:02 – 00:31:17:19
Guy Mezger
And tho- those are the people that You know, for me, I mean, it’s like rewa- you know, I was always just naturally good at fighting for some reason. I could just figure the game out. I was not scared. I was very analytical about this. I could tell Like, you walk up on me, I know if you’re left or right-handed most of the time. I can tell all sorts of stuff.

00:31:17:19 – 00:31:33:10
Guy Mezger
I can tell if you had injuries. I could tell a lot of stuff just because I can see as you’re walking in on me, right? Now, not everybody has those talents, right? You know what I mean? And so, you know, for me to get like kudos for being a tough guy is like rewarding a dog for barking. You know what I mean?

00:31:33:11 – 00:32:05:22
Guy Mezger
You know? You just don’t. That’s just part of the nature 0 of the animal. You know what I mean? And, you know, w- people who, who step up and do brave things, whether it’s physically brave things or intellectually, emotionally brave things, um, you know, who aren’t equipped for that kind of stuff, they, well, they deserve the acknowledgement. They, they, they’re the ones that sit there and deserve to get the atta boys or the atta girls because, you know, it I mean, you know, to me s- stepping up and fighting ain’t scaring me, but stepping up and, you know, stepping up and talking in f- front of a couple hundred people, yeah, I’m a little more comfortable with it now, but 00:32:05:23 – 00:32:11:20
Guy Mezger
man, that used to give me fright. You know what I mean? I’d rather be punched.

00:32:11:22 – 00:32:26:23
Brandon Adams
Have you seen the ones where the, eh, they’re online now and they’re actually, uh, doing it as a test, and they, they go out and they go in public, and they have a kid that walks in front of them. And they run up, and they grab the kid like this, and they duck into an alley.

00:32:27:01 – 00:32:27:06
Guy Mezger
People.

00:32:27:07 – 00:32:34:18
Brandon Adams
See w- who will react. And they record to see who’s seen it and how they react and where they go past, and it’s like 10% of people, man.

00:32:34:18 – 00:32:35:06
Guy Mezger
think I have seen that.

00:32:35:06 – 00:32:36:18
Brandon Adams
% of the people are just- Yeah, I’ve seen it.

00:32:36:18 – 00:32:52:05
Guy Mezger
Just d- don’t do anything. I, I, I don’t. You know, of course they’re also ed- you know, they edit the ones that do. So you don’t know really how many people don’t react to how many people do because it it’s things like this. But yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I personally think, okay, you know, I mean, and this is not a, this is not a right-wing si- we- you know, left-wing kind of thing.

00:32:52:07 – 00:33:13:03
Guy Mezger
Our country’s gonna be in some financial problems in the next few years. I mean, the, the economy and what’s going on, you know, ’cause I, I was also gonna be an economist too, but, you know, we’re, we’re in for some trouble, man.

00:33:13:03 – 00:33:37:16
Guy Mezger
We’re, we’re, we’re handing our kids, um, a, uh, a not so great thing, and it’s not something that’s gonna be out in a couple of years. It’s gonna be long-term plan, an 8, 9, 10-year plan to, to really kind of get stuff you know, back on track, I believe. Um, but if we take a, if it, if we take an attitude of I’m just looking out for me and mine, then it ain’t never gonna get there.

00:33:37:17 – 00:34:05:19
Guy Mezger
Well, I’ll tell you a prime example, great example, okay? During World War II, we interned, you know, another major mistake on our part, but we interned a lot of the Japanese, uh, people, right? You know put them in internment camps. And there’s stories that talks about how people, like these They, they literally just took them out of things, and these people had jobs and farms, and all this.

00:34:05:19 – 00:34:29:15
Guy Mezger
And this one story about a farmer who took care of his neighbor’s, who’s Japanese, took care of his farm- Hmm

00:34:29:17 – 00:34:39:08
Guy Mezger
And he gave him all the money that he made off this guy’s crops.

00:34:39:10 – 00:34:44:03
Guy Mezger
That, that was like 1940s, 1950s.

00:34:44:04 – 00:35:04:01
Guy Mezger
I read that and I was stunned, you know. I was like, “Oh, man, that’s, that’s what it’s about,” right? He would, uh, short sell me s- at the bank , you know what I mean?

00:35:04:05 – 00:35:19:07
Guy Mezger
And, uh- He would take your farm. Y- yeah, and, and take my farm. th- you know, that’s the difference. and the difference is, is that person would be considered a good businessman. you know, and the fact is I think we need less good businessmen. We need better human beings.

00:35:19:08 – 00:35:44:10
Brandon Adams
I love that. Um, you know, that’s It’s really cool to keep g- in, in perspective of that side of you as we go to start talking about this other side of you, right? You went from kickboxing became champ in that, and then you took it to a whole You said you went professional. Like what was that what was that cycle like? Um, I was just

00:35:44:12 – 00:36:04:17
Guy Mezger
Well, to be honest, I was just getting paid. That was the difference. I, I’d been fighting for free for a long time. Um, th- you know, w- well, you know, like I said, it helped out a lot because my, you know, um, you know, my self-esteem Y- you know what I mean? I got kudos. You know, now people knew, like, you know The, the nice part about Dallas, or n- I don’t know if it’s nice, but-About Dallas, okay?

00:36:04:22 – 00:36:18:21
Guy Mezger
Dallas is a big city, but it’s got a small town mentality. So it don’t take hard to be a big deal in Dallas, right? You know what I mean? It’d be hard to be a big deal in New York, but it’s hard, it’s not hard to be a big deal in Dallas.

00:36:18:21 – 00:36:40:07
Guy Mezger
And so at the time I was the only guy really doing anything in that space, boxing and kickboxing. Especially kickboxing. And so everybody knew who Guy Mezger was. You know what I mean? And, um, it was great. And, uh, you know, I started working for Larry North as a trainer. He worked for Larry too, uh, about 100 years ago.

00:36:40:07 – 00:37:00:21
Guy Mezger
And, um- you know, it was just a situation where, you know, it gave me leverage, it gave me leverage to go, you know, become bigger and better things. Now, I always liked the fighting. I mean, I liked the competition. In, in fact, if I wasn’t so banged up and didn’t have to deal with all the, the, the BS of the boxing commission like this, I’d probably play a little bit now.

00:37:00:22 – 00:37:18:20
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? You know, I just, um, you know It, it, it’s not for everybody. And, and I don’t, I don’t put fighters on a pedestal like some people go you know, they do, you know? Uh, fighters are fighters. I mean, most of them, to be honest, if they didn’t have the fight business, they’d probably be in jail. All right?

00:37:19:01 – 00:37:32:01
Guy Mezger
there are a lot of really great guys in there, and e- and generally the guys who are the champions tend to be the great guys. They tend to be very smart, you know? They tend to not b- you know, in the fight business, MMA is a little different because most of the guys come out of college wrestling. That’s why they’re successful, so they’re educated.

00:37:32:01 – 00:37:52:00
Guy Mezger
But before that, fighters didn’t have degrees. You know what I mean? You know, in fact, I’ll be honest, it’s not like I had this over desire, this, you know, thing to be a professional fighter. Now, I liked the accolades that came as being a good athlete and everything, but you know, I You know, I wasn’t like I was like, “Yeah, this is my big dream.”

00:37:52:05 – 00:38:15:13
Guy Mezger
I was just in such a crappy place in life it turned into, to, to my focus. Um, I would’ve been a doctor. If I could’ve been a doctor, I would’ve been a doctor sooner. I mean, I, I, I prefer to heal people. I, I, I prefer You know, I don’t like necessarily hurting people. I understand the necessity of it sometimes. You know what I mean? It’s I mean, people go on about, “No, no, no, violence is, is a necessity at times.”

00:38:15:14 – 00:38:36:23
Guy Mezger
The, the You know, and, um, and I understand that. I’m not naive. Um, in fact like I, I had a confrontation fuck 4 or 5 months ago, which was a physical one. You know what I mean? You know, again, you know, he brought it on himself, but So it’s not like I don’t do this, but if I, if I can g- you know, if I didn’t have to punch another person in the face ever again in my entire life, I’ll be all right with that.

00:38:36:24 – 00:38:52:15
Guy Mezger
I’ll be okay with that. And um, you know, and so, you know, for me, you know, w- when I first started fighting UFC you guys don’t understand, man, there were no rules.

00:38:52:16 – 00:38:55:07
Brandon Adams
I mean- Oh, I remember. I, I loved them. That was, that was crazy back then.

00:38:55:09 – 00:39:19:05
Guy Mezger
There were no rules. There was no time limits. There was no Safety equipment was, um, optional. It was bare fisted. And um, you know, to be honest, man, it was like Well, I’ll tell I, I was scared. I mean, you know, a- and, and it wasn’t like Okay, so when I stepped in the UFC I had like 60 pro fights, hundreds of amateur fights, you know?

00:39:19:06 – 00:39:47:19
Guy Mezger
Thousands of them actually, you know? I mean, literally I had over 3, 4, 500 maybe wrestling matches, 200 or so judo matches, maybe another 100 Sambo matches. Sambo’s like judo. I had 20 amateur kickboxing fights. Hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of karate fights, and a pro record.

00:39:47:21 – 00:40:07:22
Guy Mezger
And I was like, I agreed to do that. I didn’t put 3 nights, I didn’t put 3 hours of sleep together a night. I would wake up and I would just be stressing about it. And it’s funny, because I wasn’t stressing I realized, obviously I’m fearful of the fact I might get hurt, but that was never my

00:40:07:24 – 00:40:28:12
Guy Mezger
I, I never really worried about that too much. Never fought these, fought under these conditions before.

00:40:28:14 – 00:40:32:18
Guy Mezger
and millions of people are either gonna see me win or get my ass handed to me.”

00:40:32:20 – 00:40:34:01
Brandon Adams
And it won’t- And it won’t be gentle.

00:40:34:02 – 00:40:34:08
Guy Mezger
Yeah.

00:40:34:09 – 00:40:34:20
Brandon Adams
I go.

00:40:34:21 – 00:40:58:18
Guy Mezger
I go- Yeah. I go, yeah. I go, “This is not” I go, I go, that’s what actually kept me up was the whole idea of that, you know? And it’s like, I remember I remember, um, uh, Cathy Kidd was her name. She, she ran, uh, she, she ran the backs area for the UFC back in, uh, the ’90s. And, uh, so we’re all doing our interviews, our, our pre-fight interviews.

00:40:58:18 – 00:41:15:09
Guy Mezger
And they’re filming it, and then so, you know, there’s a little lag time. I, you know, there’s I’m listening to a couple of guys going, and they’re like, “I can’t wait to get in there, the UFC, to prove myself,” and blah, blah. I’m, I’m, uh I’m thinking, “Man, this guy’s hardly got any fights, anything like this. I mean, how is he so confident like this?”

00:41:15:10 – 00:41:30:01
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? I was like, “He’s gotta be out of his mind,” you know? And, uh, so they did mine, and they’re like, I said, “All right, so how do you feel?” I go, “I don’t know about you, man. I hear everyone, they’re all excited about this.” I said, “I haven’t slept good since I, since I agreed to do this, man.” I go, I go, “I’m just ready to get it done,” because I said to her, I go, “Man, I wanna get some re-”

00:41:30:03 – 00:41:49:17
Guy Mezger
I said, “I’m ready to get some regular sleep.” And, uh, you know, they all thought it was funny, but it was the truth. And, uh- You know? And so, so, you know, so I’m step- you know, so I stepped in there and, and it, I’ll be honest, the, the, the, the nice You know, people go, “Oh, it’s like a street fight.”

00:41:49:19 – 00:42:09:20
Guy Mezger
Okay, I’ve been in a ton of street fights. Okay? Ain’t like a street fight. Okay, first of all, in all the street fights that I ever been in, I never met anybody who knew how to fight. I mean, I met mean guys. I met strong guys, tough guys, vicious guys. I’ve been stabbed, I’ve been shot, I’ve been All kinds of bad stuff happened to me, so, but never anybody could really fight.

00:42:09:24 – 00:42:29:12
Guy Mezger
So now I’m stepping into a ring, and I never, by the way, had a street fight in a 30 by 30 ri- cage. You know? That’s never been the case, you know? Um, and, uh, so it’s not like a street fight. And so I’m actually going against somebody who knows how to fight, has some experience fighting. He had, I think he’s, I think he’s had 32 something fights or something like that.

00:42:29:16 – 00:42:38:12
Guy Mezger
Who was it? Guy named Jason Fairn was the first guy. And, um, um, you know, and so I’m like, “All right,” you know?

00:42:38:14 – 00:43:08:22
Guy Mezger
“Let’s do it.” And, um, it, it’s interesting because just the format itself Now, I’ve had a lot tougher boxing matches. I’ve had a lot of tough kickboxing matches. But the format itself was very, it’s gonna sound like It was a very spiritual experience. Not, not in like religious spirit, but in more of a personal and spiritual experience because there was something about it that set me free.

00:43:08:24 – 00:43:36:05
Guy Mezger
Like, I sat there and I was like, “Man, this is” I literally looked death in the eye. It’s not like I hadn’t been shot at. Now, again, I have, So you are looking at death when that happens, right? But I was never scared or never worried. I never had, I never had this feeling of like, literally like I was 30 pounds lighter after that.

00:43:36:05 – 00:43:56:17
Guy Mezger
And it was a weird, you know, it was a weird experience. It was a great experience. I mean, you know, uh, I don’t know, maybe it’s like skydiving for certain people. I don’t know. I, I, I, I don’t know how to explain it. But it, it changed, it changed a lot of perspective, of, of where I was in life. Um, and, uh, you know, I, what I realized, I was not really fearful ever.

00:43:56:18 – 00:44:20:10
Guy Mezger
Like, I wasn’t fearful to fight. I’m more f- fearful of things like maybe look like a fool or, you know, not being successful, not, you know, the, you know, you know, uh, you know, I hid it underneath all these other things. But that, all that got revealed. And I remember saying to myself, “Man, I just sat there and just did this,” even though J- J- Jason Fairn is not a bad fighter or nothing, but he wasn’t in my league.

00:44:20:10 – 00:44:33:04
Guy Mezger
You know? And, uh, even though it wasn’t somebody in my league, it was just the whole experience. It set me up into doing this. I was like, “Man, if I can do this, man, I can do a lot better things in life.” And, and I did.

00:44:33:05 – 00:44:40:12
Brandon Adams
Was the, was the kick kid mentality, was that kinda coming back out again? The what? The kicked kid mentality.

00:44:40:14 – 00:44:49:19
Guy Mezger
Oh, I think that, I think that never really goes away with too many people. I think, I think what happens is, is certain experiences and certain things, certain things people say will always bring that up.

00:44:49:19 – 00:44:51:03
Brandon Adams
Bring it back. You know what I mean?

00:44:51:05 – 00:45:05:12
Guy Mezger
Like, I, I’ll recognize it now. I, I, I don’t react to it like I did when I was a when I was a younger man, you know? But I recognize it. You know? I, I recognize that there’s that, that feeling and you’re like, been here before.”

00:45:05:13 – 00:45:05:20
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

00:45:05:21 – 00:45:11:19
Guy Mezger
And, um, you know. But yeah, I mean, you know, y- y- you know, you know, the fight business is such a crazy business, man.

00:45:11:21 – 00:45:40:11
Guy Mezger
It’s not like I, I welcome it. Like my son, uh, Logan, my middle son, he is so good, it’s ridiculous. But he’s sweet and he’s kind. It’s like I always say, you know, every now and then a guy, you’ll hear the guy being charming about his wife, go, “You know, let me introduce you to my better half.”

00:45:40:13 – 00:46:01:10
Guy Mezger
If I’m truly honest, I’d have to introduce my wife as my better 34ths. Because she really does more than anything in my life. And she’s she’s, you know, with the kids and stuff. You know, like this. And he’s sweet, and he’s kind, and he’s strong, and he’s brave. But he doesn’t wear a chip on his shoulder.And so everyone has to fight, has to have a little bit of a chip.

00:46:01:10 – 00:46:15:17
Guy Mezger
So I was like, “Yeah, let’s not do” Not that he was super excited about doing it, but he always was like, always wanted to see what it was like. If you wanna do it amateur, you’re fine, but let’s not do anything pro.”

00:46:15:18 – 00:46:22:06
Brandon Adams
So as you went through that first thing and the next thing, what was the biggest fight you ever had?

00:46:22:08 – 00:46:46:06
Guy Mezger
I’ve had so many. I, I, I think probably the, the best fight was when I beat Funaki, uh, for the King of Pancrase World Ch- uh, Championship, um, because Funaki is the only guy He beat me twice. Um, in fact, if you guys can see this, see my elbow looks like this ’cause he broke my arm. And you probably can’t see this, but that scar there is where my shin came through my, came through my leg when he got me in a leg lock.

00:46:46:07 – 00:47:13:22
Guy Mezger
So here’s a guy who not only beat me, but broke me And so and just, you know, I always, I always love the peop- I love, always love, like, uh, m- mainly m- American martial artists who always go, “You know what’s really missing in American martial arts is the honor and respect and honesty comes from Japanese.”

00:47:14:03 – 00:47:40:15
Guy Mezger
“What planet are you on?” Just reading the history book, we understand that they’re not so honorable like this. And of course, like in Japan, they, they have an agenda, and what they did not wanna have is another white American guy going in there and winning their championship again. So Funaki, who kinda went into, uh He, he kinda went into Well, he s- he, he made some movies over there and stuff like this, so he wasn’t fighting as much, and so he lost his ranking, all right?

00:47:40:15 – 00:48:07:18
Guy Mezger
And, um, and so I’m destroying all the guys coming up, you know. I was like ranked six, and I was, boom, I started moving up. All of a sudden they bring Funaki back. They put him in a fight against the number one contender, I mean, or the champ, and jumps, jumps over me.

00:48:07:20 – 00:48:26:00
Guy Mezger
And I kinda understand Funaki’s much more popular. He’s gonna bring more money and the things like this, but I’m the ranked guy. He jumped over. He beats this guy. Now I have to face Funaki. And the reason they did that was they knew that Funaki would be the only one to beat me, ’cause he already beat me twice. And, uh, it’s funny, man. Uh, you know, it’s like, it di- it didn’t phase me.

00:48:26:03 – 00:48:29:09
Guy Mezger
You know? I was like.

00:48:29:11 – 00:48:47:19
Guy Mezger
And, and it’s interesting why. Because I don’t know if you guys, how much you guys believe in, in visualization, but you should. By the way, visualization is absolute key. If you can’t see yourself doing something, people, you ain’t gonna do it. That’s just the way it is. You’ve gotta see yourself be able to do it first in your mind’s eye.

00:48:47:19 – 00:49:14:21
Guy Mezger
And it’s funny because Okay, so when I was y- when I was a y- a younger athlete, um, this is before there was MMA. I’d get up in the mornings and have to run, okay? And, uh, uh, you know, in Texas, winters are cold. Th- they’re not long or anything, but they’re cold. And literally, I would pull my hoodie all the way up to one eyeball, and I’d run till that eye got frozen, and I’d put it on the other eyeball 00:49:14:22 – 00:49:37:08
Guy Mezger
like this. And I hated running. And I would always use visualization while I was running. And there used to be, you know, they used to have things called magazines. I know they don’t really have those anymore. All right? They had this thing called a magazine, and they had one called Karate Kung Fu Illustrated. And they would, uh It was great. And, uh, and they, they, they did a thing on shoot fighting, which was the pre-runner Which Pancrase was a shoot fighting organization.

00:49:37:09 – 00:49:53:06
Guy Mezger
It was a pre-runner to M- uh, to full MMA. In fact, it’s closer to what MMA is today and it had these guys out there, and I’m watching, you know. And they, they had a whole photo, things like this. And there was a picture of Ken Shamrock, who I didn’t know was Ken Shamrock at the time.

00:49:53:07 – 00:50:08:12
Guy Mezger
And, uh, and I literally saw. I thought, “Man, how cool.” It’s got kickboxing, which I was a kickboxer, boxer. And they got wrestling, ’cause I was a wrestler. And I, and, and submissions. And I was like, “Man, I would love to do this.” And I would run, and I’d go, “I’m gonna be the world champ.

00:50:08:13 – 00:50:40:08
Guy Mezger
I’m gonna be the world shoot fighting champion. I’m gonna be the world shoot fighting champion.” fast-forward. That was 1992. Yeah, so I’m like ’92, ’93. I’m sitting there fighting Funaki. They do the whole big They’re very big on pomp and circumstance So they do the whole you know, introduction. That’s half the fight. And, uh, I’m looking over, and he’s wearing all black. Black trunks and black shin pads, knee pads.

00:50:40:10 – 00:50:58:14
Guy Mezger
I’m wearing red trunks with red and black shin pads. And that was the vision that I had because that was the vision from the magazine that I had that would do mine. And I was like- Wow “Man, I’ve been here hundreds of times. I’m gonna win.” I remember looking over in my corner and I go, “I’m gonna win.” They’re like, “Yeah, sure you are.

00:50:58:18 – 00:51:18:15
Guy Mezger
He’s only kicked your ass twice.” You know? And, uh, I kicked his ass. And I did. I did a good job. I, I It was the smartest fight I ever fought. ‘Cause I outsmarted him, which is saying something ’cause he is a, uh, chess master. And, I just knew how, I knew how to fight him. I stayed on it, and I f- I It went to, it went the full 30 minutes.

00:51:18:15 – 00:51:39:06
Guy Mezger
It was a full, full 30-minute fight, so we fought for 30 minutes straight. And, um, I just outsm- I, I just outsm- I outsmarted him. I, I just It was like, it was the best fight I ever had because I’m beating a guy. I beat him. Funaki’s better than me. I’m not Uh, I got no bones about admitting that. He was much better. He couldn’t wrestle as good as me.

00:51:39:06 – 00:51:58:24
Guy Mezger
He didn’t like getting hit very much, but he was a skilled striker. Awesome at submission obviously, ’cause I’ve only been submitted 3 times out of, like, 65 MMA fights. And so I just never been submitted in a s- in a Never been submitted in judo, never been submitted in Sambo, never been submitted in jujitsu. You know? But I got submitted 3 times.

00:51:58:24 – 00:52:19:14
Guy Mezger
of those were by Funaki. That’s how good he was. So, but I beat a better man because I outsmarted him. You know what I mean? It was like, I tell people all the time, you c- you know, if you are determined enough, and you think your way through it, you can beat, win at just about anything. You know? And it’s just You know, and it was the truth. You know what I mean? I mean, it’s, it’s the absolute truth, right?

00:52:19:17 – 00:52:32:05
Guy Mezger
You know, f- Funaki was better than me, is better than me, and, uh, I just was smarter than him that day. And I was more determined, and, uh, that’s my, that’s my best victory. That’s crazy. It was also for the world title, so.

00:52:32:06 – 00:52:49:01
Brandon Adams
That’s amazing. Well, I, I, you know, Boomer, I don’t know how much you watched UFC, you know, back in the day. Oh, yeah, loved it. I was a huge, uh, Royce Gracie fan. Just loved to, loved to see that guy choke people out and, uh- He used his gi. He used to use his gi to choke people. He was always There was all these big muscly dudes that were just, like, beating people to a pulp, and he would just take it and take it and take it and take it and take it, and the next thing you know, it’s like here he is choking somebody out or holding their ankle, and they you know, and they’re tapping, you know?

00:52:49:01 – 00:53:05:06
Brandon Adams
It was, it was really kinda crazy to see, you know, the, the smaller guy have an opportunity to take a dub, you know?

00:53:05:07 – 00:53:20:11
Brandon Adams
And so loved watching the fights, man, honestly. Like, it was really- Oh, for sure really, really cool to, to, to watch those, you know, and, uh, to be a part of something like that, and then to even have, have you on our show, you know? And, um, really kinda cool, man. So, uh, again, thanks for being here, but- Oh, my pleasure

00:53:20:14 – 00:53:21:24
Guy Mezger
My pleasure.

00:53:22:01 – 00:53:27:12
Brandon Adams
Like, so after you, after you kinda put that away, you, you had to retire at some point.

00:53:27:13 – 00:53:52:14
Guy Mezger
Um, God has a sense of humor. He, uh, he makes you superhuman, then about 37, 38 He makes you mere mortal, and that kinda sucks. And, um, that happened to me, and, uh But I, I was done with the fight business, man. I mean, I, I’ll be honest, man. It was like I was s- if it was only about competition, ’cause I love competition, you know, I’d st- I, I’d have done it till I I’d be doing it today.

00:53:52:16 – 00:54:05:04
Guy Mezger
But the business side of stuff, it just wears your soul out. And so I was so ready to go, but the problem was, again, self-esteem issues. And, uh- Who am I if I’m not the tough guy?

00:54:05:06 – 00:54:06:20
Brandon Adams
Who am I am I’m not the tough guy.

00:54:07:01 – 00:54:26:24
Guy Mezger
I had built my life on being the champ. And on top of it, I’m making a stupid amount of money, and I’m like, “If I quit doing this, what am I gonna do?” I mean, literally, what, what am I gonna do? I’m, I don’t have I always had a gym, but it doesn’t make the kind of money I make fighting.

00:54:27:00 – 00:54:46:22
Guy Mezger
I mean, not close. I mean maybe a 10th of it. And I didn’t have a college degree. Everyone thought I graduated college ’cause I was a fairly successful college wrestler. But I didn’t quite finish college. You know, I was like, “I don’t know what to do.” And then I was actually forced to because I was taking a medicine called Vioxx.

00:54:46:24 – 00:54:59:04
Guy Mezger
It’s basically kind of an anti-inflammatory, and, uh, ’cause I, my knees were shot. And, uh, it’s a great medication except for it causes you to have heart attacks or strokes. That was the one downside of it.

00:54:59:05 – 00:55:00:12
Brandon Adams
That’s a huge one. It’s kind of a downside.

00:55:00:13 – 00:55:03:10
Guy Mezger
It’s kind of a downside, yeah. I, I would consider that a downside.

00:55:03:12 – 00:55:05:09
Brandon Adams
Like 6 feet downside. Like a side effect.

00:55:05:11 – 00:55:33:16
Guy Mezger
Yeah, like real far downside. And, uh, anyway, so I had a stroke, and, uh, I was very fortunate it wasn’t devastating stroke obviously. But, um, it’s, it’s weird. It’s like things that people would normally look as disasters turn out to be blessings in my life. Like, having that stroke, and I wasn’t I didn’t have The actual

00:55:33:16 – 00:55:46:24
Guy Mezger
I was just uncomfortable. And I said, “All right. I’m not gonna train today. I’m gonna go” ‘Cause you have to get your medicals in. At thir- And I was, like, 35, 36, something like that.

00:55:46:24 – 00:55:59:13
Guy Mezger
And, uh, you have to do extensive medicals for that, you know, when you do that when you’re that age. And so I was like, “All right. I’m gonna take the day off. I’m gonna go there.” So they do that. They do the brain scan, and they literally I’m there, and they’re like, “Uh, Mr. Mezger, we need you to go to the emergency room.”

00:55:59:13 – 00:56:16:04
Guy Mezger
I’m likeOkay. So they, so take me to the emergency room. They start hooking me up to all these machines and stuff like this. I’m like, “Oh, no one’s telling me what’s going on.” Anyway, so I found out later on that I had a stroke, and, um, the area that I had the stroke in is, um, uh, they call it the silent killer because what happens is, is that you don’t have any outward, you know, you don’t- No signs

00:56:16:04 – 00:56:19:12
Guy Mezger
Because what happens is, is that you don’t have any outward, you know, you don’t.

00:56:19:13 – 00:56:19:17
Brandon Adams
Know.

00:56:19:23 – 00:56:35:12
Guy Mezger
the difference. Yeah, and, you know, you’re having a brain breed, and a, a blain- brain bleed, and then, you know, you gotta be conscientious, you know, if something happened like that. So I just looked at it like it was a sign for me to, “I’m, I’m done, man. do this anymore. Like I said, I’m just done.

00:56:35:12 – 00:57:03:02
Guy Mezger
And, um, and it was tough because I was making a lot of money. And I was like, man, that came to a- Screeching halt screeching halt. And my wife is pregnant, my f- or with, with, with Logan. And, uh, you know, terrible timing for this, you know, you know. And, and so I just, you know, yeah, I sat down and just I don’t know if you guys are a fan of prayer, but I’m a huge fan of it.

00:57:03:08 – 00:57:20:21
Guy Mezger
Sat down and, you know, just started, you know, talking about, what am I gonna do, you know? And it, and it, it sounds like it’s a disaster, but it was a blessing ’cause I wouldn’t have quit, ’cause I was just making too much money. I was too I didn’t know what I was gonna do with myself. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You know? Especially making that kind of money, and I would’ve just worn myself out.

00:57:20:21 – 00:57:43:14
Guy Mezger
And instead, you know, it turns out to be even better. Okay, so I, you know, you know, I, you know, start figuring out what I’m gonna do. And so I started a consulting business. Next thing you know, Mark Cuban buys my consulting business- and makes me the president of a tel- his television, part of his com- uh, division of his television company.

00:57:43:16 – 00:58:02:11
Guy Mezger
And now I’m in TV. know? And, you know, and it was a blessing for me because I, again, through my insecurity, I did not know what I was gonna do. Now, one of the smartest, wealthiest men in the world, and Mark Cuban, love him or hate him, I happen to love the guy, but he’s one of the smartest guys you’ll ever meet.

00:58:02:13 – 00:58:23:10
Guy Mezger
I mean, you know, his way he talks are like this, he intentionally does it to disarm you. You know what I mean? in order to make a But you’re not. And, uh, anyway, so he, uh, it was just a, a, a, it was a, it was a boon for me.

00:58:23:10 – 00:58:39:07
Guy Mezger
I was like, man, if I can You know, if one of the smartest guys in the world sees value in me, in something like, it’s not like I have a TV background. You know what I mean? It was like this. I just had my You know, I had an idea, fi- knowledge about how to do it, how to put the sports together, and, and, and I did it.

00:58:39:08 – 00:59:06:07
Guy Mezger
It was great. I, I did it for f- almost 5 years, and, um, and I left Well, I, I left because Ryan Seacrest uh, bought, uh, they merged, so H&N became, um, AXS TV. And, um, they, they were n- nice people. It wasn’t like they weren’t good guys or nothing, but they were just different from me. You know what I mean? The way I do stuff and, um, I’m a little OCD about stuff, so I’ll get into things and I, I, you know, I’ll be honest, it has to kind of be my way or it’s not comfortable for anybody.

00:59:06:07 – 00:59:25:17
Guy Mezger
You know? And so I thought, you know what, this is probably a good idea for me to leave, ’cause I, I literally produced It, it, we were the number one programming on H&N. Number one programming. We, we put that You know, it was pretty awesome.

00:59:25:17 – 00:59:36:19
Guy Mezger
And so I said, “I’ll just go out as a champ like that.” And part of my deal was I always wanted to be a doctor, so I looked into doing some stuff and, and, um, there was a question like were– They were gonna put a severance deal together.

00:59:36:21 – 00:59:56:13
Guy Mezger
I ain’t like, “I don’t need a severance deal, man. You guys have been a blessing in my life.” And like, Mark goes, “What are you gonna do?” And I said, “Well, I wanna go back to school.” I said, “There’s a naturopathic school in Oregon that I can do online.

00:59:56:14 – 01:00:12:07
Guy Mezger
You know, I can do, you know, things. I only have to be up there a few times a year, you know, ’cause I’m Now, you know, I have family and everything here in Texas. I wanna become a doctor like that.” And they’re like, he goes, “Okay, great.” And he paid for my school. You know, that, that was my severance pay.

01:00:12:09 – 01:00:31:06
Guy Mezger
And so, um, so I, that’s, that’s how I went on the journey there and, and, uh, then trying to get in the PhD program was actually a pretty funny story. They wouldn’t let me in. ’cause I’m not leaving until you accept me.”

01:00:31:08 – 01:00:47:05
Guy Mezger
I mean, literally. I told them, I go, I go, “This is not a threat.” Uh, they didn’t wanna think I was, like, gonna beat them up. But I said, “I’m just literally not gonna leave until you guys accept me into this program.” And, um, actually, a mentor of mine who, um, he

01:00:47:07 – 01:01:09:21
Guy Mezger
Well, he became a mentor. He was one of the guys on the board. Um, great guy, uh, amazing doctor. He was actually an orthopedist, and then he, um, had some health issues, and he started investigating, you know, alternative ways like this. And he became, in fact, it’s how I got all the information on peptide medicines and stuff like this. He was into peptide medicines way before everybody else.

01:01:09:22 – 01:01:29:20
Guy Mezger
In fact, he introduced me to BPC, the original form of it, which was called something different. But, BPC1- 157, which is a, uh, a, uh, peptide to help accelerate healing. And, um, so, you know, he goes, “I’m gonna send you this stuff. I want you to take it,” and so on. So I’m taking it, and I’m like, “Yeah, I don’t think it’s working.” He goes, “It’s working.”

01:01:29:23 – 01:01:53:24
Guy Mezger
“I don’t think it’s working.” “It’s working.” And, you know, I- it didn’t feel any different. I was just always this. And the difference is, is, like, I had extensive should- shoulder surgery. I tore 3 heads off my rotator cuff. I tore my bicep tendon and my bicep. And, um, so I had the surgery, and then so he That’s why he gave me the, the, the, the BPC. And, uh, I went from a 10-month, a projected 10-month, um, rehab- Recovery

01:01:54:01 – 01:02:17:11
Guy Mezger
to 5 months. was like, “Holy crap.” That’s when I was like, “This is” And, and that’s why I got, Kind of our specialty is, you know, pep- you know, developing peptide, therapies, you know? ‘Cause a lot of people, um You know, everyone thinks they know about peptides, but they really don’t.

01:02:17:16 – 01:02:36:12
Guy Mezger
And, uh, you know, but what we do is we de develop safe, efficient effective programs. And, uh, a lot, a lot to do with, uh, Smith being a great guy. He passed away, but he was an older gentleman then. But this guy was, like, surfing at 83 years old. He lived in San Diego. And it was like, “That’s how I wanna be.”

01:02:36:14 – 01:02:50:00
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? He died at 85. Healthy. You know? He’s, you know, he was surfing all the way up to 83 years old. You know what I mean? Just living life and, and, and stuff like this, and didn’t wake up one day. And that was, “That’s how I wanna be, man.” That’s it, for sure. You know? Yeah, brother.

01:02:50:02 – 01:02:58:07
Brandon Adams
Well, let me say, you went, you went to school, and you graduated. You, you, uh, you had a sit-in to, to make sure you got in, got, got into the doctorate program.

01:02:58:08 – 01:02:59:12
Guy Mezger
Got in the doctorate program.

01:02:59:17 – 01:03:05:13
Brandon Adams
You got through that, and then you, you came back, and you, it came here, right? You stayed here. Yeah, I stayed- Family’s already here, right?

01:03:05:14 – 01:03:32:14
Guy Mezger
I, I Yeah, I, I was here. And so, so what I started originally was, um, I didn’t really go into, uh, uh, uh, like, practice, you know, uh, uh, a practice. Um, mai- mainly because in Texas they don’t license those k- uh, you know, they don’t license natural doctor, you know N- N- NDs and, and, uh, and, uh, doctors of natural medicine. Um, they, they don’t, um So it wasn’t like Yeah, you know. was more on the idea I had my p- you know, PhD versus the, the, the other program.

01:03:32:14 – 01:03:51:11
Guy Mezger
And so I just started, uh, a f- or, you know, um I was always somewhat of a Dr. Frankenstein when it came to doing stuff. You know, I, you know, I always did stuff. Why I’m good at what I do is I get very, I’m, again, a little OCD. I get very, like, locked in on something.

01:03:51:11 – 01:04:06:17
Guy Mezger
Well, I always wanted to be the better athlete, right? Like, I knew God didn’t make me the best athlete but I knew that I could make myself into a, an exceptional athlete, and that’s what I did. I read everything. As a kid, I read everything on anything that had to do with martial arts, with weightlifting, with food, all this other stuff, you know.

01:04:06:18 – 01:04:25:14
Guy Mezger
And so literally by, like, 13, I knew more than most doctors about nutrition. And, um, uh, and so, you know, that, that’s kind of why I sp- like, when it I’m, I am much better at, uh, figuring out men’s health issues than I am women’s health issues. Because obviously I, I- Been there, done that.

01:04:25:14 – 01:04:26:13
Brandon Adams
I’ve been there, done that.

01:04:26:14 – 01:04:57:22
Guy Mezger
Yeah, I’ve- Yeah, I’ve been there, done that. And it, and it interests me. I, I You know, that, that became my, my, uh, my focus. And, um, yeah, so it, it was just, uh, s- you know, stepping up into I, I started doing, uh, formulations. I was telling you about that, ’cause I gave you guys uh, one to try that I’m sure you guys are gonna like. Uh, and, uh, you know, I started doing that. And, and then, um, i- interesting how I started doing, um, g- going, uh, into more metabolic-oriented stuff, ’cause that was always my specialty was, um, metabolic function.

01:04:58:00 – 01:05:27:18
Guy Mezger
Um, a friend of mine goes, “Hey, I am, uh, been asked to invest in a, um, a medical company called, uh, Cerebrum.” Cerebrum Center or, uh, Cerebrum Health. Cerebrum Health. And it is a, um, it’s for, um, brain injuries and, um, post-traumatic stress and all this. And I was like, “Well, I’m not a neurologist.

01:05:27:19 – 01:05:43:10
Guy Mezger
I mean, I can tell you how the brain works-” Mm-hmm “’cause, you know, I went to school, and I can tell you how the brain works.” “But I said, “I got I don’t, I don’t know a huge amount, you know, about interventions about that.” And he goes, “Yeah, but you’re the only guy I know who might know something about it.” So I was, “All right.”

01:05:43:11 – 01:06:01:19
Guy Mezger
So I went and met with the guys, the doctors there. And, um, I didn’t think it was gonna s- I didn’t think it was going to be a great experience because they’re all in their, like, mid-30s and stuff and early 40s, and they’re like, “Hey, when I was a kid, you were my favorite fighter.” I’m thinking- “Am I that old?”

01:06:01:21 – 01:06:20:05
Guy Mezger
Yes. “I don’t even like these guys.” And, uh, but, but anyway, so yeah, needless to say, they started talking. Outside, we got a normal brain function, certain anoma- abnormalities that we know about, like, we can fix, you know, I knew about. But then, man, they started going into stuff and I, I was just likeYeah. Okay, I don’t understand this.

01:06:20:05 – 01:06:34:08
Guy Mezger
And I even told them, I said, “Guys, you’re talking Chinese now.” And they’re like, they’re like, “Well, would you be interested in going through the testing on it so you can get a firsthand experience?” And I knew I was having problems. Y- you don’t fight for 17 years I fought for 17 years as a pro. What you guys also don’t understand is I had 145 professional fights.

01:06:34:08 – 01:06:52:04
Guy Mezger
Like, I had a full career as a professional kickboxer, boxer, and full contact karate fighter, and then I had a full career later on as an MMA fighter. I’ll tell you why I don’t like getting hit.

01:06:52:04 – 01:07:23:01
Guy Mezger
I’ll tell you a s- funny story about that later, but I didn’t like getting hit, so I was very good about not getting hit, but it doesn’t mean you don’t get hit. And so I realized I was having some issues. And so they went through some testing. They, they, they, they, you know, found some issues. Now, like, I had problems in the dark. When it was dark out, I’d have a hard time just negotiating, like, walking a straight line. Um, and it would be like I was drunk. And, um, you know, and anyway, so the, you know, they, they saw this. They saw these issues, blah, blah, blah, and then they, they were like, “Yeah, we can treat this.”

01:07:23:01 – 01:07:49:01
Guy Mezger
So I got treated, and those issues went away, and, uh, like that old saying, nothing more zealous than a convert. And, uh- And, uh, so I’m like, “This is awesome.” So I started, you know, gearing some of my after studies t- to looking at this. And then they approached me because I had helped them. they had their, their doctor staff like this, but they didn’t know a lot about hormones and all this other stuff, and these guys were coming in with these

01:07:49:01 – 01:08:03:02
Guy Mezger
Like, you know, they were like, “Hey, what do you think of this?” I was looking at these guys’ blood work. I was like, “Oh my God,” and this. “This is why they’re having the issues.” I mean this is, this is chemical. You know? This is, a lot of this is chemical.

01:08:03:03 – 01:08:29:14
Guy Mezger
I mean, you need to, they need to get straightened out. And so they asked me, “Hey, would you be interested in working with our vet program on this?” ‘Cause none of the doctors at the time had, were vets or served in the military, and even though I didn’t, I had been working with the Navy 01:08:29:14 – 01:08:46:03
Guy Mezger
And so I knew a lot of these guys. In fact, like, it was, like, I walked in there. My first day as a clinician, I walked in there, and there was, like, 3 guys that I knew from, like, 1999. You know? It was great and you know, and so it was interesting because then I was a defensive tactics instructor.

01:08:46:05 – 01:08:59:04
Guy Mezger
Now Healing And, um, so I, um, so I got back

01:08:59:06 – 01:09:21:16
Guy Mezger
It’s, it’s just more interesting. I’m like, “Oh, okay.”

01:09:21:17 – 01:09:37:08
Guy Mezger
I’m like, “Yeah, I love it. Okay, yeah.” You know, the problem is I give them way too much information. That’s what they gotta worry about, but, uh, you know, I, I enjoy that challenge. And, and, and to be honest, man, it’s like, like I said, I prefer h- helping people versus 01:09:37:09 – 01:09:40:18
Brandon Adams
So as you’ve gone into that, how did you and Boomer come across each other?

01:09:40:24 – 01:09:46:05
Guy Mezger
Well, we met each other years and years ago when we both 01:09:46:06 – 01:09:47:19
Brandon Adams
The people don’t know who, who, who- Oh, oh, oh, sorry.

01:09:47:23 – 01:10:09:24
Guy Mezger
La- l- there, there’s a guy named Larry North who is a huge, uh, he was a fitness influencer before that was a term. And, uh, he, he started a radio show that was very popular. He started, uh, gyms. He was actually brought the first personal training gym to Texas. And I worked for him then. You know? I remember. Of course, you know, this is why, uh, you know, like, I, I stay in my wheel well when it comes to this business, which is, you know, b- you know, doing therapies and whatnot.

01:10:09:24 – 01:10:36:19
Guy Mezger
I don’t try to explain t- to, to Boomer how to do marketing- because that’s what his wheel well is, you know? And- Not really. You know, and, a- a- but, you know, it’s c- you know, so I, I kind of know what I don’t know. And so anyways, but so it’s like, you know, dealing with, um, w- w- you know, I, I was just very good at being a th- I wasn’t very good at running a business.

01:10:36:21 – 01:11:01:13
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? At that, you know? And so, you know, so what ended up happening was, um, m- my medical director was having some, um He, he’s a good guy. Real good guy, and his business was just floundering, you know, because doctors, you know, like, w- we tend to be very good at doing medicine, but we’re not very good business.

01:11:01:13 – 01:11:24:21
Guy Mezger
And so there was an introduction to some people, and that’s how I did it, is like I suggested to that, that these guys help, ’cause they, they had a consulting business. And somebody had told me about them, and then so this g- Dr. Shelton said, “Hey, do you know this guy?” “No, I don’t know him,” but I At, at time, he didn’t really tell me who you guys were.

01:11:24:21 – 01:11:45:05
Guy Mezger
But then I said, “I think it’s a good idea.” So then we started talking a- on stuff, and we just be c- you know, doing stuff. And then h- him and, uh, a- another friend of his and, and former business partner named Clay, r- super smart guys, you know? Very motivated, stuff like this. And so I was like, “All right. I got some other ideas.” And so really what it was is I, we, we had these other ideas to start this clinic.

01:11:45:06 – 01:12:08:00
Guy Mezger
There was some people that wanted to, you know, with some money, wanted to start a clinic. So I was like, “I need you guys to come aboard.” So we got together working on that. That, that deal didn’t end up going on, and, um, they, they ended up kinda doing their own thing, and I, and I ended up doing my own thing. And then just the opportunity came about later on, uh, you know, um, that we had an opportunity to you know- Collab um, collab together because, you know, what, what he does real well, uh, complements what I do real well, you know, because I can’t do what he does.

01:12:08:00 – 01:12:32:21
Guy Mezger
And he can’t do what I do. And so it works real well ac- like that. And really what it, be honest, what it does, it makes a great product for people. You know what I mean? To be honest, I mean, it’s like, you know, you can have all the knowledge in the world, but if you can’t get it out to people then, you know, you’re, you’re, you’re not going anywhere.

01:12:33:02 – 01:12:49:15
Guy Mezger
And you could be the greatest marketer in the world, but if you don’t get results for people that’s gonna kill your business, too. Yep. And so really what we do is we do, you know, we, we have the capacity of doing both. You know what I mean? We, you know, we, w- we’re very, very conscious and very, I don’t know, maybe the word intentional 01:12:49:17 – 01:13:16:06
Guy Mezger
of the people that, that we hire. You know? Uh, you know, uh, the people that we have in there, you know, it’s like they, you know W- we want people that, like, care about people. We want people I, I want our staff somewhat emotionally involved with the people. I want them to understand, you know, that, you know, why this person might be feeling this way, right?

01:13:16:07 – 01:13:33:24
Guy Mezger
Why? Because you’re gonna be more sympathetic to it. You’re gonna, you’re gonna, you’re gonna work harder for it. You know what I mean? You, you know, like this. And, and, and really, you know, th- you know, that, that’s what we wanna do. We, we want to- be your champion. We want people to get, come up and give us high fives because they feel a million times better, or we fixed some issue with them.

01:13:34:00 – 01:13:52:18
Guy Mezger
And so, you know, we just, we, we relied a lot on how our thought processes work and the type of people we want to bet. We both have very strong spiritual bases in our lives. We have, you know, that, that’s centered around- like, like a lot of people, and, and it’s, it’s not criticism. It’s just an observation.

01:13:52:20 – 01:14:14:11
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? You know, is that a lot of people, they wanna put their spiritual practice in their lives. They just don’t know how to do it, right? And so they’ll have really good Sundays. You know? Everyone has a good Sunday, right? Like this, but it’s, you know And then, you know, and then, you know, your Monday’s like this, and then it just kinda, you know,

01:14:14:11 – 01:14:36:23
Guy Mezger
And, you know, that’s, you know, that’s, you’re missing out. I, I feel like people are really missing out when you don’t you know, when you can align yourself intellectually, emotionally, and spiritually, physically and spiritually you, you can get that alignment. You can get some of that aligned. You’re light years ahead of just about everybody else 01:14:36:23 – 01:14:39:15
Guy Mezger
in life, and that’s kind of like, you know, that’s- So I’ll take you back on that a minute because, um, first of all, I’d 100% agree with you on that.

01:14:39:17 – 01:14:57:11
Boomer Cornwell
So to kinda go back to a question you asked about, you know, how and when did we meet, I mean, we go back it was, it was actually the summer of ’96, so we’re, we’re at 30 years ago, man. You know? Crazy, right? And, um, and like you said, we both worked for a guy named Larry North.

01:14:57:11 – 01:15:13:24
Boomer Cornwell
Great, great dude. Still, still around today, you know. We had lunch with him not too long ago. Great dude. Um, you know, and it was a little bit serendipitous because I had Guy had his studio at a, at a, at a different Larry North location. I was working at another one, my manager at the time said, “Hey, we gotta go to this other location.

01:15:13:24 – 01:15:26:15
Boomer Cornwell
I need your help with some stuff.” I’m like, “Why is he choosing me? I’m, I’m a nobody over here,” you know? So, but I went over there, and that’s how I ended up He, and as Larry’s walking me in, he goes, “Oh, I want you, I want you to meet Guy Mezger.” And, and I, and I thought, “Guy Mezger, Guy Mezger.

01:15:26:17 – 01:15:45:18
Boomer Cornwell
Why do I know that name?” And, um, turns out, you know, he’s the MMA guy. So, uh, go in, and I met him for the first time, and, um, and it was really interesting because I, it was a little bit I didn’t realize it till later, but I, I, I remember thinking, it was probably like a couple of years later even, I thought, “You know, I think, I think there was a reason that we met that day.”

01:15:45:19 – 01:15:54:13
Boomer Cornwell
I don’t, I don’t know what that is. Like, I, I don’t know what it is, but there was a reason we met that day. And then he decided not to invite me to Japan to go to his matches- and so we, we kinda lost touch there for a while.

01:15:54:14 – 01:15:57:20
Guy Mezger
And, um- Dude, that was back before they had text messaging.

01:15:57:22 – 01:15:59:10
Boomer Cornwell
Yeah, right. We didn’t have cell phones back then, right?

01:15:59:11 – 01:16:00:04
Brandon Adams
Well, we did- Sent a pigeon, you didn’t get it

01:16:00:04 – 01:16:16:10
Boomer Cornwell
we called them mobile phones. They came in suitcases. Um-So anyway, yeah. So fast-forward, uh, yeah, it’s funny. So my, my former business partner and I, we’re starting to work, like he was saying, with this doctor, Dr. Shelton. Great, great, great dude, actually. He gets a, he gets a bad rap, but he’s actually a really good dude. And, um, and his phone’s ringing one day.

01:16:16:12 – 01:16:28:08
Boomer Cornwell
We’re in there talking, he’s in his office, and, and Shelton’s looking down at his phone. He goes, “Oh, that’s my buddy, the MMA fighter, that’s calling me. I’ll have to call him back,” you know? I said, “Who’s your buddy, the MMA fighter?” I said, “Is it that guy?” He goes, “Yeah, Guy Mesker. You know him?”

01:16:28:08 – 01:16:42:06
Boomer Cornwell
I go, “Yeah, I know Guy Mesker.” “What, what’s he calling you for?” You know? Like, “How do you know him?” You know? And, um, he goes, “Oh, he’s this He’s a great dude, great friend. He- We’re talking about doing some business stuff together.” And I said, “You know what? I’m gonna call him and, uh ’cause I haven’t seen him in forever, and we’re gonna go have coffee with him.”

01:16:42:06 – 01:16:55:01
Boomer Cornwell
So I think it was the next day Clay and I shot down to, to Dallas and had coffee with him. And, you know, he was elated to know that we were working with Dr. Shelton and, you know gonna you know, gonna get he was running a good clinic. He was not a good businessman, but he was running a good clinic, so we had to do some, some things with his business.

01:16:55:01 – 01:17:12:08
Boomer Cornwell
And, uh, man, and then, you know, had an opportunity to kind of reinvent the wheel a little bit and could not think of somebody that I wanted to do this more. ‘Cause, you know, and, and what we do, we talked about this the last time on the podcast. W- what I really want Dynamisty n- to be known for is that warrior mentality.

01:17:12:09 – 01:17:31:00
Boomer Cornwell
Well, warrior mentality doesn’t mean you go kill people. That’s not what a warrior mentality is. It’s, it, it’s really the, this persevering through no matter what, right? Like, hey, you know, this, this is, this is hard. This is tough. You know? And, and there’s I mean, failure is not an option.

01:17:31:02 – 01:17:46:03
Boomer Cornwell
Uh, we’re gonna get through this, right? And so I thought, man, I mean, uh, who better to embody that spirit, right? And, um, but, but he also B- what Guy brings, and, and I’ve, and I’ve, I’ve introduced him to people this way. I’ve even talked to other people. I mean, a- and I, and I’m telling you, I’m not saying this ’cause, I mean, I really do mean this, right?

01:17:46:03 – 01:18:03:05
Boomer Cornwell
You won’t find somebody with a better heart and a better soul than this guy. You really won’t. And so I wanted It, it’s that perfect balance of what I wanted this company to be. And what we want this company to be is, is we wanna have that warrior mentality. But we also really and truly do care about people, right?

01:18:03:07 – 01:18:21:21
Boomer Cornwell
One of the things I think that we did, um, in the early days of the company, um, I don’t think we did it wrong, I just think we didn’t do it right, if that makes any sense. That it, it was a very transactional type relationship between the clinic and the patients. And I didn’t And, and sometimes that happens, but, but we got a lot of negative feedback on that.

01:18:21:22 – 01:18:37:00
Boomer Cornwell
You know? “Oh, I felt like I was just kind of a number. I don’t feel like you really wanna help me,” kind of thing. And I, I, I, we really don’t want Dynamis to be that. We really want Dynamis We wanna develop a relationship with our patients. You know? So that’s, that’s why, you know, Guy has a heart for going in and really taking a deep dive.

01:18:37:00 – 01:18:50:08
Boomer Cornwell
Sometimes he’ll say it. Sometimes he dives too deep into what a patient wants. But, but, you know, we want people to know that we are here to help them. Like we, we want them to get the help that they really need. We don’t want them just going, “Oh, I think I need X, Y, Z.” We’re not a You know, we’re not the cattle call place.

01:18:50:09 – 01:19:04:19
Boomer Cornwell
You know? That, that’s not us, and we never will be. We want people to know that we, we really do genuinely care about them. We really do genuinely wanna help them. And sometimes helping them means that we don’t We tell them no, right? Sometimes helping them means it, tell them, “But we I’m sorry, we’re not the right people. We, we can’t help you.”

01:19:04:19 – 01:19:12:00
Boomer Cornwell
Sometimes that’s helping people. But, um, that’s really, really what we want this company to be. So, and it’s, and it’s, it’s getting there, man.

01:19:12:01 – 01:19:29:16
Guy Mezger
Well, yeah. I mean, also too is, like, we want, you know, we want active interaction with our people because if you were to come to us, like, you were, like, complaining a little bit about, like, your “I got a little belly fat.”

01:19:29:18 – 01:19:30:10
Brandon Adams
A little spare tire over here.

01:19:30:12 – 01:19:46:16
Guy Mezger
Yeah, the spare tire we got. Well, all right. So, you know, the one thing is, is we’ll do is we’ll sit down and explain to you, “Okay, this is what we can do for you chemically to do this,” you know? ‘Cause everything’s, comes down to some kind of chemical reaction in your body that’s gonna help facilitate some of this. But you can’t do it

01:19:46:20 – 01:20:13:16
Guy Mezger
You know, what we, we, we do is, is, like, we try to explain this. Like, we need you to be an active part of your health. You cannot be And we, we really encourage Now, some people won’t be. It doesn’t matter what, how much we try to encourage, you know? But some of the stuff that we wanna do and, you know, obviously, you know, love to have you guys’ feedback on this, is we wanna try to do a little bit more roundtables with s- with people. ‘Cause, you know, the more that we can educate people, you know on stuff, like

01:20:13:17 – 01:20:35:06
Guy Mezger
And it’s not And when I say educate people, it’s, it’s not ha- deep dive stuff. I mean, let’s say, so the Hippocratic Oath, okay? Which is the oath that all health professionals take. You know what I mean? And basically do no harm. It was from a guy named Hippocrates. The Hippocratic Oath is a guy named Hippocrates. And he was a Greek, um, uh, physician at 500 BC, okay?

01:20:35:07 – 01:20:57:10
Guy Mezger
And he basically formed, 500 BC, he formed the moral backing and standards and health standards in which we use today. All right? He was a badass, and we might wanna listen to him, okay? Now, we’ve kinda stayed away from his stuff, you know, because he’s, he talks about s- things. You know, this guy performed successful brain surgery at 500 BC, okay?

01:20:57:11 – 01:21:16:05
Guy Mezger
That would make him a badass. And you might wanna listen to that guy, okay? And so the thing is, people wanna make this more difficult, okay? But it really comes down to just a couple different things, that you have to be active, all right? You need to have exercise. You need to have proper food, and you need to have rest.

01:21:16:07 – 01:21:44:03
Guy Mezger
Those are the things that are gonna make you healthy. All right? Now, our job is, how do we facilitate these for you? Because of, we’re not in a perfect world anymore, all right? You know, uh, we, y- you need to have Like, I know people don’t like it, you need to have supplementation. Like, guys, just a simple multivitamin. Statistics show, they did a mega study that had tens of thousands of people involved.

01:21:44:04 – 01:22:08:11
Guy Mezger
The median age was 70 years old. They, they were on a, they were on, uh, a, uh, a multivitamin. Now, we’re talking all kinds of multivitamins, good ones, bad ones, all kinds of stuff like that, ’cause most of the sup- you know, you have to have a good supplier of supplements or they, they tend to be sh- shady, right? So it didn’t matter. It was just the, the, the, the, the qu- they were on a, a, a, uh, a, um, a multivitamin supplement.

01:22:08:13 – 01:22:51:13
Guy Mezger
And, uh, their, and the, uh, median age was 70. That’s what they could get 0 uh, the, literally 10,000 studies on this. And people had a 10% higher They lived 10% longer, and they had a 10% higher, uh, brain function areas from just taking a multivitamin. Right? You know? At 70. Simple and simple as that right? And we have to multiply. ‘Cause a- again, today, like, okay, like, an example is an organically grown apple today is 52% less nutritious than one that was grown in 1950.

01:22:51:15 – 01:23:12:05
Guy Mezger
So people go, you know, the old saying, “Eat an apple a day-” Mm-hmm keeps the doctor away. Well, w- what are you gonna eat, 2 apples? apples, yeah. Well, then the problem with eating 2 apples is you get twice as much sugar and less nutrients, right? So, you know, so, you know, having s- supplementation, being woken up to the idea of supplementation, the idea, like, of demystifying things like testosterone.

01:23:12:07 – 01:23:31:14
Guy Mezger
Now, everyone thinks, “Oh, testosterone,” they got it so wrong, it’s ridiculous, right? Testosterone, yeah, it helps build muscle and stuff like this, but it does more than that. You know, they used to treat depression in the ’50s with testosterone, and it worked. The SRIs came around and they thought, “Oh, uh, we can make more money off that.” And, you know, people might actually commit suicide and other stuff like that, but hey, don’t get in where, don’t, don’t get in the way of the buck.

01:23:31:14 – 01:23:55:16
Guy Mezger
You know? Because testosterone’s cheap. You know? And so, you know, but testosterone does more. I mean, it literally makes you who you are as a man, not because it, you know, puts the muscle on you. No, it actually helps drive your sex drive. Y- you know? You need to have a certain amount of testosterone in order to hold a proper level of semen.

01:23:55:18 – 01:24:15:22
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? Even though they are 2 different functions, right? You know what I mean? It is. It’s gonna help with bone density. It’s gonna help with heart issues. It’s gonna help with, uh, mental issues, emotional issues. Somebody goes, “Oh, yeah, and it’s also gonna preserve your muscle.” All right? Which again, the number one, what is becoming the number one indicator for l- longevity today is actual physical strength.

01:24:15:24 – 01:24:35:15
Guy Mezger
It used to be, like you know, blood pressure, all this, which are all very good markers. It’s not that. But they can literally, longevity is the sim- the, the simple movements like grip strength, being able to squat down, be able to balance, doing you know, strength, things like this. You know, uh, you know, in fact, we put together a, a, a program and we’re gonna have, have you guys put up.

01:24:35:19 – 01:24:53:16
Guy Mezger
Uh, it’s gonna be, like, 6 exercises with, um, age ranges and what you should be. And if you can’t do this at your age, you know, then you need to do something about that. And, and I kinda wanna put it up there because me being, makes, I can make anything into a competition.

01:24:53:17 – 01:24:54:23
Brandon Adams
Oh, yeah.

01:24:55:00 – 01:25:05:22
Guy Mezger
so I look at it, and I’m looking at it, uh, ’cause I, like I’m 58 years old, so I’m looking at the 50 years, and I’m like, “Oh, I can crush all that requirement.” So I, ’cause I have excellent, good, average, and need improvement.

01:25:05:24 – 01:25:30:13
Guy Mezger
So that way it gave you the different levels, so you can go. So I’m excellent all the way through till I’m, my 30s, and there’s a couple ones in my 30s that, uh, uh, um, average. I have one that’s below average, and I got 2 that are average, and, and my goal- is to be excellent in all 30 of these a- at 30 years old, right?

01:25:30:14 – 01:25:50:03
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? And, and, and so we kinda wanna make it into a game for people, but we wanna educate people- Mm-hmm. on the fact that something as simple as working out regularly, not even crushing yourself, but working out regularly, you should be able to do these things. If you can’t do these things, you need to focus on these things because this is science.

01:25:50:04 – 01:26:08:03
Guy Mezger
It’s not my opinion that you get to live longer if you do this, right? You know? And so, you know, so th- these are the kinda things that we wanna be able to present to people. You know, we want, we want an educated- a, a patient client because we want them to be excited. We want you to go, “Hey, I wanna do something different.

01:26:08:03 – 01:26:25:03
Guy Mezger
I wanna be healthier. I wanna do this.” You know, whatever it is that, that, that, that, that we, that there is ’cause there’s I mean, you know, a big chunk is hormone balancing, but there’s also, you know, a lot of We do a lot of weight loss stuff. We can do y- a lot of, uh, uh, the, you know, like some of the anti-aging r- for mitochondrial, uh, function, which mitochondria for these that don’t know, is the energy source in your cell.

01:26:25:05 – 01:26:43:16
Guy Mezger
Uh, it’s what creates the energy for you. And, um, you know, so, you know, we wanna do things like that. You know? Y- your, that works better, your life works better. It actually extends your life. Uh, so, you know, these are the things that we’re trying to create 01:26:43:16 – 01:26:58:07
Guy Mezger
in here. So we want people asking us questions. We want ha- we wanna create a community for people because we want people who are active and who, you know, We want, we want you to go, we want people who want do something about it.

01:26:58:08 – 01:26:59:11
Brandon Adams
You know? Well, let me ask you this que- We want them, we want them to be educated though too, to interrupt you.

01:26:59:13 – 01:27:18:07
Boomer Cornwell
But I mean, it, it, it’s again, I, I feel it, well, for a lot of different reasons, that it’s one of the things that this particular, uh, space of medicine is missing. And, and I, I w- I would even use the term intentionally missing because he, he brought up the point a second ago, you know, that SSRIs replace testosterone.

01:27:18:08 – 01:27:21:04
Brandon Adams
Uh- What are SSRIs?

01:27:21:06 – 01:27:24:16
Guy Mezger
Like, they’re, they’re, uh, like anti- antidepressant.

01:27:24:18 – 01:27:49:01
Boomer Cornwell
Antidepressant medication. Kinda so. Um, and, and in So the, basically in, in kinda layman’s terms, those types of medications replaced testosterone for, you know, treating things like depression back in the 50s like Guy was talking about. Um, why did it do that? Well, because the pharmaceutical companies realized they can make a lot more money off of doing that than treating it with something that would be, you know, quote-unquote, natural, like a testosterone replacement. Right? Um, now not to say that a lot of it didn’t work, a lot of it did.

01:27:49:02 – 01:28:08:18
Boomer Cornwell
But at the same time, we go back into, like, the negative side effect profile, where it actually caused more problems than it fixed. And that led to ultimately kinda this medically based society we have now. There are so many companies out there that are chasing the dollar and not chasing the education piece of this.

01:28:08:18 – 01:28:33:20
Boomer Cornwell
So what, what they’re seeing is, a- wh- and what that’s creating, uh, we talked a little bit about this earlier, is kinda this transactional relationship between a clinic and a patient. Where the patient’s just being given 2 or 3 different types of medication. They don’t even know necessarily why they’re being given or what it’s gonna do because the, the clinic isn’t educating them. They’re just giving it to them because the clinic is making X amount of margin on making sure that the patient is on that particular medication or that particular product.

01:28:34:01 – 01:28:56:01
Boomer Cornwell
And I’ll be, I’ll be very honest, early on in our business, not Dynamis, but in, in other businesses, we were probably guilty of the same thing. Right? I, it, it was very important to me that we have an educated patient base. and that’s specifically because there are so many shady, what I would call gray market type companies out there, some of them black market, um, that are not, 1, they’re not a, they, they have no interest in educating the patient or telling them why they need what they, what they need.

01:28:56:01 – 01:29:12:14
Boomer Cornwell
The pa- they just know these people are going on social media and reading something. Who, God knows who put it out there. Weight loss product, whatever.

01:29:12:14 – 01:29:31:16
Boomer Cornwell
And so you have these gray market company and black market companies that are out there, um, selling these things. And first of all, it, they’re probably selling a really shady product. They’re coming from China or India someplace. They’re not even coming from an actual US-based manufacturer or compounded pharmacy. Um, so literally you have no clue what you’re putting in your body, but there’s no education component.

01:29:31:16 – 01:29:50:18
Boomer Cornwell
You have no reason, you, you don’t know why you’re putting it in your body. We don’t want that, man. We we would never ask somebody to do that. I mean, so I, I was able to monitor, um, a lot of the calls from this week even, and even this week I was blown away by how many, uh, patients would come to us and they’re on the wrong product, they’re on the wrong dosing, they’ve never been educated as to how to dose.

01:29:50:20 – 01:30:07:07
Boomer Cornwell
I mean, 1, 1, one gentleman we talked to this, this past week, in fact I think it was 2 days ago, um, he I, I forget what clinic he came from, but, but they didn’t educate him on how to do any of it.

01:30:07:08 – 01:30:24:18
Boomer Cornwell
He was dosing literally, like, a 10th of what he should be, and he could not understand why his hormone levels would not get up. He was convinced that testosterone replacement d- just wasn’t working for him. And our provider dug into it and kept him on the phone probably longer than, than she needed to, but, but really did a good job in, in helping him understand, “Hey, it, you don’t have a testosterone

01:30:24:19 – 01:30:45:00
Boomer Cornwell
This testosterone’s going to work for you. What your previous clinic did was not educate you on how to dose this and how to take it appropriately.” He was taking it completely off schedule. When he did, I mean, he was basically wasting his money ’cause he was getting no effect from it whatsoever. He’d been doing this for 2 years. And could not understand why his levels could not increase.

01:30:45:01 – 01:31:00:24
Boomer Cornwell
You know? And that’s a good example of And, and that’s a pretty basic example, but it’s a good one of, of what it is that we try to do. We, we really try to come and, and educate our patient. There’s a lot of really bad information out there. We talked about this last time. There’s a lot of bad information, and specifically around peptides.

01:31:01:03 – 01:31:18:21
Boomer Cornwell
Right? Um, people don’t understand, a lot of them don’t understand how and why peptides work the way that they do or what they’re specifically intended for. They’re being mismarketed as an energy supplement. They’re not. There’s some that may do that. But that’s not what they’re designed to do. Some of them are being, you know, marketed as a weight loss supplement.

01:31:18:21 – 01:31:36:02
Boomer Cornwell
Well, there are peptides for that, but there are some out there that are being labeled as a weight loss supplement. They’re not a weight loss supplement. If it’s used correctly, that might actually happen. But that’s not what it’s designed to do. There’s so much bad information out there around all these products. And our, our mission is to, is to, is to really filter a lot of that out.

01:31:36:03 – 01:31:53:18
Brandon Adams
And, and even this too, like, if you think about what’s good out there, right? There’s, there’s this miracle drug of the GLP-1s that a lot of people are taking. They’re going and taking a shot. They’re not working out, they’re not doing things. And they are losing, right? And they’re losing weight. So that’s good for a community, but also bad for a community when you go, “Hey, there’s these other things you need to do, but you also need to add X,” right?

01:31:53:18 – 01:31:59:12
Brandon Adams
Because the lines become blurred.

01:31:59:13 – 01:32:20:13
Guy Mezger
Well, yeah. The, the main problem, uh, I was not a huge fan of GPL-1s when they first came out, um, ma- mainly because, um, the idea that you can just take something and lose weight. There’s no free rides, guys. Just so you know, in life, no free rides, okay? That stops at about 6 years old, okay? When Mom and Dad start monetizing what it’s gonna take to do that.

01:32:20:14 – 01:32:40:23
Guy Mezger
All right? That stops. There’s no free rides, okay? And with your, with your health, there’s no free rides. That’s right. All right? It’s, you know, it’s not a difficult ride. Eat reasonably well. If you eat 60, 70% healthy, you know, you’re gonna be in an amazing place. You work out 2 to 3 times a week, we’re talking less than 30 minutes a day, you’re gonna be in a much better place.

01:32:40:23 – 01:32:59:08
Guy Mezger
Would I suggest you do more? Yes. Would I suggest you eat 80% correct? Yes. Okay? All right? Your sleep, you know, if you’re getting, you know, a good solid 6 hours and then another 2 hours of, of, you know, less, you’re probably gonna do okay. All right? You want

01:32:59:09 – 01:33:17:10
Guy Mezger
It’s very difficult to get a full 8 hours, especially the older you get. But, um, th- these are things that, that, that, that, that are gonna, that, that are g- that work, and they’re, they’re built in science. The problem with a lot of stuff that goes on, and the problem with, like, with these influencers and stuff that are, that, that are here, is some of them are very good, all right?

01:33:17:11 – 01:33:47:10
Guy Mezger
And they use science. Other of them are just pulling these numbers out of their butts, you know, and, and telling people. And, and, um, and it’s a little frustrating ’cause I, I’ll talk to somebody. ‘Cause th- th- th- th- okay, so the interesting is, is that certain therapies and medicines work differently on other people. Like, you know, it’s like, you know, I have W- we have a patient who takes, like, w- no- nobody would, nobody would suggest that he takes this little of testosterone.

01:33:47:12 – 01:34:09:06
Guy Mezger
They’d be like, “No way he’s getting results.” But he does. All right? So would it behoove him to have, like, literally he takes about 50% of what a starting dose would be. Not even, like, an eventual dose, but a starting dose. And he’s been doing it for, I don’t know, 10 years now. And, uh, and he’s unbelievably successful with it, right?

01:34:09:07 – 01:34:32:21
Guy Mezger
So the thing about what we, you have to do is you Okay, so we need, you know W- we can’t be a cookie cutter. Our, our business is not a cookie cutter business. You know, we, we changed up, uh, the way we deal with stuff. Like you said, is instead of, like, selling products like this, we literally have co- you know, we, we refer to them as coaches now. Like, we have health coaches that will, you know, that, that monitor. Like, you know, let’s, let’s say I was a health coach, I had you 3 guys, these are my things.

01:34:32:22 – 01:34:46:17
Guy Mezger
I would understand what’s going on. And that way, you know, you talk to me about something, I can relate that information, you know, to, um, oh, do I need to let Guy know about this ’cause of this, or should I, like Tori? You know what I mean? You know, you know, with this.

01:34:46:18 – 01:35:02:13
Guy Mezger
And so, you know, ’cause what we wanna do is, like you said, is we, you know, we, again, the education process. But again, we understand that not everybody’s gonna be the same. You know, you, you may work real well on testosterone, and you may work really well on Clomid, right? You know what I mean? So, you know- Or, or even a lower dose.

01:35:02:15 – 01:35:09:12
Boomer Cornwell
I mean, I, I- Yeah, or a lower dose. I’ll tell you what, man. Um, one of the biggest things that we’re up against is this thought process. I mean, typically- Oh, more is better.

01:35:09:13 – 01:35:09:21
Guy Mezger
Is better.

01:35:09:22 – 01:35:30:05
Boomer Cornwell
Oh my God. I mean, t- Oh my God and, and, and it’s, it’s the typical kind of male mentality, right? Well, 1, one was really good, so 2 must be better, and 3 must be even way better than that. And it’s not the case, right? I mean, there’s so many people, and women sometimes too, but this is more men, that come to us, and they, they’re, they’re telling us, “Oh, no, no. I’ve, I’ve gotta have, you know, m- minimum, minimum 600 milligrams of testosterone a week.”

01:35:30:06 – 01:35:40:19
Boomer Cornwell
I mean, I’m like, “Whoa.” Whoa. I mean, 600 milligrams. first of all, who in the world put you on 600 milligrams? Because that’s, that’s malpractice. I mean, there, there’s no- Yeah. Nobody- Yeah, you get your license yanked for that.

01:35:40:20 – 01:35:41:07
Guy Mezger
I mean, so- But they do it.

01:35:41:07 – 01:36:01:14
Boomer Cornwell
The minim- minimally effective dose, right? We don’t, we don’t need that. I mean, there, there’s, there’s so many examples out there of people who have been given bad information, um, either the wrong information or over-prescribing, right? Like, y- you A, a 45-year-old male that comes to us that swears he needs 600 milligrams has been lied to. He doesn’t need 600 milligrams.

01:36:01:14 – 01:36:17:24
Boomer Cornwell
He probably doesn’t even need a solid 200, although would be about, uh, about baseline. So that, that’s the kinda, that’s the kinda stuff that we, that we- cipher through and that we, that we really try to educate our patient on it. And I tell you, it, it works. Sometimes, sometimes it doesn’t. Sometimes they, they are just convinced they’ve gotta have their 600 milligrams.

01:36:17:24 – 01:36:33:12
Boomer Cornwell
But a lot of times we can talk ’em off that ledge and go, “No, not only do you not need it, here’s why literally your body right now at 50 years old can’t handle it.” Right? You think you feel better because your numbers are up, but your numbers are up in spite of your, your 600 milligrams, and here’s why.”

01:36:33:12 – 01:36:47:15
Boomer Cornwell
Right? And we walk ’em through that educational process and, and show them, “Hey, you don’t even have to spend as much money, ’cause we’re not, we’re not gonna prescribe as much. But here’s why you don’t need it physiologically. Here’s why you don’t need it.” And then you can kinda see that aha moment of, “Oh, wow.

01:36:47:15 – 01:37:04:00
Boomer Cornwell
Okay, yeah, that does make sense.” And they come back to us in their follow-up visits and go, “Wow, thanks. Not only, uh, not only have I saved money, but I’m, I’m not having to stick myself as much, you know. And my numbers are still up there, I still feel as good.” So you know, that’s, that That’s probably one of the number one things we’re up against, is convincing people why they don’t have to be on so much stuff.

01:37:04:03 – 01:37:04:11
Brandon Adams
Yeah.

01:37:04:16 – 01:37:23:13
Guy Mezger
And- The, the, the problem is too is that everybody has the AI now. And, um, and it you know, this is what I’m finding out about it, it is

01:37:23:15 – 01:37:39:00
Guy Mezger
all it’ll do is yank stuff off the internet. So what it’s gonna do, it’s gonna yank off the most looked at stuff from the internet, right? Well, it’s gonna be those influencers and stuff like that that are telling you that, “Yeah, you need to do 400 milligrams or f- 600 milligrams of testosterone.” When you’re like, “No, no you don’t.” You know what I mean?

01:37:39:01 – 01:37:56:20
Guy Mezger
You know? And so, you know, w- we combat that a little bit. I mean, and, and that’s usually why the, the, those are usually the phone calls I have with patients is, you know, because I have a rougher bedside manner than anybody else, and I’m just like, “No, it’s not gonna No, that’s dumb.” No, that’s stupid.

01:37:56:20 – 01:38:14:20
Guy Mezger
Let me guess- you, you got it off GP” “No, I didn’t.” “Yeah, you did.” ‘Cause, ’cause that’s, that’s where it came from. And I go, “Let me tell you why that’s not, okay?” “Now let’s, let’s sit down and explain why that’s not the case, okay?” And, you know, and, and then so I You know, and then they’ll kinda go You can tell that they, you know, you know, God forbid actually makes sense, right?

01:38:15:01 – 01:38:24:03
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? To somebody who’s convinced that they’re making more sense. And then they suddenly realize it. And that’s really what we wanna do. Because, you know, I mean, you know, again, mo- you know, mostly men, yeah, it’s mostly men.

01:38:24:05 – 01:38:40:06
Guy Mezger
In fact, I’ve never really met a woman that had a problem with that, like that, you know, with this. But yeah, they think more is better, and to be honest, it’s about balance. You know what I mean? Think, think about everything in life. Everything in l- life is about balance. You work too much, it affects your health, it affects your marriage, it affects all sorts of other stuff like that, right?

01:38:40:08 – 01:38:59:13
Guy Mezger
So what, what, what is the, what is the big, you know, thing now is about balance, right? You know, that’s the big, you know, thing everybody’s looking for. And every- And listen, everybody has their own definition of it. You know what I mean? I like working.

01:38:59:13 – 01:39:18:06
Guy Mezger
I mean, I have t- you know, 2 jobs that I love. I love, I love the being a dynamous health professional there. I love helping people like that. I, I find it exciting. It gets, you know, it’s, it’s my way. I, I, it’s like how I get to fight again, because I go in there and I try to figure it out, and it’s a victory when I get somebody going like this.

01:39:18:06 – 01:39:39:20
Guy Mezger
And then of course I, you know, I, I, I still own, own gyms, you know? I mean, I know the value that, that, that brought to my life you know what I mean? And, and, and so, you know, it’s like I don’t actually see myself retiring. I might slow down a bit, but I just don’t see myself retiring, you know, uh, necessarily, because I love what I do. And, and, and I have balance. I, you know, I’m very fortunate.

01:39:39:20 – 01:39:48:10
Guy Mezger
I don’t know why I got such great kids, ’cause I was not such a great kid.

01:39:48:12 – 01:39:49:10
Boomer Cornwell
Maybe because you have a good wife.

01:39:49:11 – 01:40:09:18
Guy Mezger
Yeah, man, it is. And so, you know, so I look at, like I tell people all the time, it’s like, you know, we look for these, uh, you know, various balances and most of us don’t. And so the problem is, is that m- a lot of people, they want shortcuts. E- and that’s, that’s the main problem that we deal with, the mentality of You know, the, the thing is that everything’s about a hack.

01:40:09:19 – 01:40:30:20
Guy Mezger
I mean, you, you know, 15, you know, you know, 15-minute hack to figuring out AI, you know? You know, you know, 30 days to 15-inch arms. Like this. But okay, none of that shit work. Hell no. That’s BS, right? You know what I mean? And so, you know, so, you know, so the fact of the matter is, is, like, people want stuff like boom, boom, boom, boom. Right?

01:40:30:21 – 01:40:49:01
Guy Mezger
You know what I mean? And that’s not the way it works. You know, you spend 30 years of your life not doing much physically and all this other stuff, and then suddenly w- in 6 months, you wanna drop 30 pounds and put on 20 pounds of muscle that you never had. That’s just not gonna happen. It doesn’t matter how much drugs you do, okay?

01:40:49:02 – 01:40:50:14
Guy Mezger
It’s just not gonna happen.

01:40:50:16 – 01:41:12:03
Brandon Adams
All right? Let’s, let’s talk about this for a second. We got about 10 or 15 minutes left. Let’s do, because this is such a hot top- hot topic, and we talked about, um, testosterone for a minute and let’s talk about peptides. Give me peptides 101 for the layman that are out there. Because there’s, you hear about the varieties, you hear about what’s out there.

01:41:12:03 – 01:41:18:15
Brandon Adams
You hear about US versions and European versions, and just give me a, give me a quick overview of each, each- You want me to do that?

01:41:18:16 – 01:41:19:11
Guy Mezger
Let me do that.

01:41:19:12 – 01:41:19:23
Boomer Cornwell
Have it.

01:41:19:24 – 01:41:38:21
Guy Mezger
Have at it. Yeah, okay. I’ll chime in. So, all right. So, all right, so what peptides are, guys. So, so what peptides are are amino acid chains, okay? So, and, um, and so what these peptides do is, is that they link them together, all right, in a certain way. And what it’ll cause is a, i- is a signaler in your body to have a physiological response, okay?

01:41:38:22 – 01:41:57:10
Guy Mezger
So the peptides themselves are not what’s gonna w- it So when you put testosterone in, it’s that testosterone you’re putting in your body that’s actually doing the work. When you put the peptide in, what it’s doing is telling your body to go do something. All right? So that’s what people need to understand.

01:41:57:11 – 01:41:58:02
Brandon Adams
Passing a note.

01:41:58:04 – 01:42:19:03
Guy Mezger
Yeah, it is. It, it is a signaler. So it’s gonna go in, and it’s gonna tell s- you know, s- it’s gonna hit a receptor, and that receptor, depending on what it is that you’re doing, is gonna, you know, cause a physiological response, which is, by the way, real healing. Okay? So, you know, like I try So you’re saying, you know, it’s like that’s real healing. Because the only thing that heals the body, and again, this comes all the way back to Hippocrates again.

01:42:19:03 – 01:42:38:17
Guy Mezger
He said, “The only thing that heals the body is the body itself,” and it’s true. You think about medicines that fix things. Like, you know, there’s very few. Most of them fix symptoms, antibiotics do. Antibiotics actually kills bacteria. You- but your body has antibiotics, right? It just tend to be that we take bad care of ourselves, and so we, you know, we need

01:42:38:17 – 01:43:02:17
Guy Mezger
You know, it gets overwhelmed, so you need the, that. So th- th- that, that’s a medicine that actually fixes something. See, the beautiful part about peptides, the peptides is making your body work better. Okay? Now, there are peptides like, you know, I, I think the, the, the, there’s, these are all horribly, tend to be horribly misunderstood. But the ones that I think are, like, super, super important, uh, is gonna be, like, this BPC-157, the one that I does, ’cause it, it’s a definite healer.

01:43:02:18 – 01:43:25:23
Guy Mezger
Oh, yeah. You can take it on various levels to either actually physically, physically help repair, like, a t- torn, you know, uh, you know, torn- Injury muscles, injuries. It can be used to reduce, uh, inflammation from working out. Like, you know, so there’s all sorts of ways that you can use it. Um, uh, there’s, um, I, I think, you know, that, that, that’s a f- uh, a phenomenal one, um, that does- Another one’s CJC.

01:43:26:01 – 01:43:28:06
Boomer Cornwell
That is the one CJC yeah.

01:43:28:06 – 01:43:53:05
Guy Mezger
And, and the CJC, and okay, so there’s I, I like the CJC, CJC-1295 and, um, ipamorelin. All right? And so the, the, those are referred to as secretagogues. And so what that means, it makes your body secrete, uh, something, in, in this case, growth hormone, okay? And, you know, growth hormone is your base, uh, hormone. It’s your, it’s your mother hormone. All, all the good stuff comes from your growth hormone.

01:43:53:11 – 01:44:18:22
Guy Mezger
And so this helps increase that. And so, like, with the CJC, the mistake that most people make with the CJC is, like, um, is that it is, what the, it actually does is it causes the body to produce more growth hormone. And the ipamorelin, what the ipamorelin does is it prolongs how long you release growth hormone. So you take them together. One causes more growth hormone to release. The other one extends the amount of time.

01:44:19:03 – 01:44:38:19
Guy Mezger
All right? You know, and again, it’s Okay, so the, the thing about it is, is that the mistake people make is that they don’t go first get tested properly to find The, the way we measure, uh, growth hormone is through what’s called IGF-1. Insulin growth factor one. It, it’s the microbite of growth hormone. We can’t actually gr- measure growth hormone. We can measure the microbite of it.

01:44:38:19 – 01:44:57:07
Guy Mezger
And, um, and so that, that’s how we tell if it’s working or not, right? And so the problem is, is people do this, and they, they, they do this, and so they think it’s gonna be a miracle worker. “I’m gonna take this, and I’m gonna have the growth hormone, ’cause if I have a lot of growth hormone, I’m gonna be leaner, and I’m gonna, I’m gonna sleep better, and I’m going to You know, I’m gonna be able to maintain more muscle.”

01:44:57:09 – 01:45:15:00
Guy Mezger
If you decide to go to bed at 10:00 you’ll get more sleep. You still can’t go to bed at 2:00 in the morning and expect to get up at 6:00 and go and run a gun. That’s what people don’t realize. Is it going to, is it going to, um, uh, does, does it help you learn fat? Yes, because what it does, it, it helps you utilize your nutri- your nutrients at a much more efficient rate.

01:45:15:00 – 01:45:39:12
Guy Mezger
All right? So yes, it’s very effective on that, okay? But that means you gotta eat something besides peanut butter and jelly and Doritos. Okay? All right? You know? So it’s not a miracle worker. You know, it can do some stuff. And so that’s a- again, part of the part of, like, with, like, the education part of what we do is, like, hey, we wanna t- tell you why these peptides are gonna work.

01:45:39:13 – 01:45:59:22
Guy Mezger
This is how it works. Now you do your end. Okay? ‘Cause it’s a simple injection. You take it before you go to bed. It’s gonna have all these good things, but you need to, you need to still do your side of stuff. And that’s really where most people are missing out on, on some of the stuff. But I, I think, like, the CJC, the ipamorelin, the, the, uh, BPC, there’s a, uh, the, uh, GHK, which is a copper peptide, really great stuff.

01:45:59:23 – 01:46:28:02
Guy Mezger
Like, GHK is gonna be really good for skin, uh, stuff like this, but it’s good for wound healing, s- uh, things like that. Um-Big fan of these mitochondrial, um, uh, peptides. And there’s, uh, 3 of ’em I, I’m gonna go through. One’s called FoxO4, uh, FoxO4, and what FoxO4 does is it cleans out senescent cells. Senescent cells are cells that have replicated that aren’t t- so, so much that they’re no longer of any use, and our body gets rid of ’em.

01:46:28:02 – 01:46:44:20
Guy Mezger
But as we get older, we have a much harder time with that. And so this, what this does is clear that out. And I’ll tell you something, guys, from a personal experience on this, I was like I was amazed. I thought, “Okay, I’m gonna take this, and I know it’s working.”

01:46:44:20 – 01:47:02:24
Guy Mezger
It’s like y- if you take a statin statin lowers your cholesterol, but you don’t feel any different. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? But it is lowering your cholesterol. I say, “Okay, the, the- I know the FoxO4 ’cause I’ve read the science on it. It’s got seriously good, solid science behind it.” I’m gonna go, “All right, it’s gonna work.” But holy smokes, man, I literally felt I kept checking my weight.

01:47:02:24 – 01:47:21:11
Guy Mezger
I go, “I gotta be at least 20 pounds lighter.” I mean, I couldn’t believe it. My energy levels were, were, were like th- I was like, “Wow, man. This is amazing” I became a huge fan of it. Um, I, I, I will say, guys, the, the nice part about Dynamis and working with me in particular is that I am a total- Guinea pig?

01:47:21:13 – 01:47:35:02
Guy Mezger
And I also am, I’m also a guinea pig. Because what I wanna be able to give you guys is, is not only do I’m gonna give you the science, ’cause I, I’m a geek who gets into the science. So I’ll be able to give you the science, why it’s working, you know, uh, you know why it’s working.

01:47:35:02 – 01:47:49:20
Guy Mezger
But then a lot of them I’m gonna know because I, I also work, use them myself. And I go, so, ’cause then I give people, “Okay, here’s my personal experience. Here’s my personal experience.” And that way people can get kinda gauge, and I can also gauge on what’s gonna go.

01:47:49:20 – 01:48:10:14
Guy Mezger
There’s another one called SS-31. SS-31 is a little on the expensive side, but what that does is that repairs the mitochondria. Okay? Yep. And which is super important because w- we have a ton of mito- mitochondrial dysfunction. I mean, every one of us. Every one of us. As Nazi as I am about my health, I have mitochondrial dysfunction, okay? And so it is You know, everyone does, right?

01:48:10:14 – 01:48:27:05
Guy Mezger
So that helps fix that. And then there’s one called MotC, which is like putting a turbocharger on the engine. You know? And so really the, you know, so what we do is we work, you know, we have a whole therapy based on the stuff. so it’s, it’s, uh, phenomenal. And, and I’ll tell you something, man, you know, the e- your energy levels, uh

01:48:27:07 – 01:48:42:24
Guy Mezger
And when I say energy levels, it’s not energy like caffeine but just your ability to go. Like I was telling you, like I always get the, um, crashes around 1:00, 2:00. You know? Um, when I, when I take the FoxO4, I mean, when I take the, uh, the MotC, it’s like yeah, no, I don’t have that.

01:48:43:03 – 01:48:54:08
Boomer Cornwell
It’s like- But that’s, that’s also a good example, too, of where there’s some misinformation out there because so many people are jumping right to the MotC. Well, I mean, you could do that, but you’re not gonna get the, you’re not gonna get the full effect and s- or nearly the bang for your buck out of that.

01:48:54:10 – 01:48:59:16
Guy Mezger
And you can get a negative effect. It w- it’s not super harmful, but you won’t feel good. Physically, you won’t feel good.

01:48:59:17 – 01:49:15:16
Boomer Cornwell
And it’s not like, uh, to the point. It, it’s, I’ve, I’ve seen a lot of advertisements out there around MotC being advertised as an energy supplement. It’s not an energy supplement. D- will it do that? Yes, but, but to market it like that is irresponsible because that’s not what it’s designed to do.

01:49:15:19 – 01:49:35:02
Guy Mezger
S- so the problem is, is, like, what people call energy is caffeine. Okay? So, you know, ’cause they get that wired thing. Okay, so what caffeine does is you have these receptors, uh, uh, uh, adenosine receptors, okay? Adenosine is what helps you sleep. So you have these receptors here like this, okay? And so what happens, adenosine comes in, sits here like this, and w- now you get sleepy and you go to bed.

01:49:35:03 – 01:49:54:03
Guy Mezger
What caffeine does, caffeine sneaks in and attaches to those receptors, so adenosine doesn’t get in there. So what you’re not What it does, it’s causing your body to feel more awake because it’s getting rid of chemical that would put you to sleep. So it’s not really energy, okay?

01:49:54:04 – 01:50:09:18
Guy Mezger
Just so you know. That’s why you get the wired feeling like that. Okay? Now, things like MotC and stuff like that, they’re not gonna get, give you that, that, that wired feeling th- like this. What they’re gonna do is they’re gonna, um ATP is your body’s energy, okay? All right? It’s part of a thing called the Krebs cycle, and I wanna

01:50:09:18 – 01:50:39:10
Guy Mezger
So what happens is your body produces ATP. You breathe, you lift, you do whatever. That burns ATP. ATP becomes ADP. It goes through this cycle, turns back into ATP. That’s called the Krebs cycle. Then it, tha- that’s the cycle, it goes. And the beautiful part about something like MotC, SS-31, is that it speeds that up. So yes, it does, it gives you real energy. Like, energy to, like, lift weights, w- energy to run, energy to think.

01:50:39:11 – 01:50:58:17
Guy Mezger
So like this, caffeine doesn’t really give you that. It gives you the awake feeling so you, you, you’ll be mo- motivated to do stuff like that. But it’s not real energy. Versus this being real energy. I mean, like, like, okay, just doing the FoxO4 and doing like this. Again, one, uh, guy was bragging, you know, talking about the, he’s a former Navy SEAL.

01:50:58:18 – 01:51:25:10
Guy Mezger
In fact, he’s a, an amazing Navy SEAL because he’s, he pa- he went through BUD/S at 39. He’s, he’s like a legend. Everybody on the team knows this gentleman, all right? And, uh, you know, and so he’s, you know, he’s, he is my number one guy. I mean, literally, he’s always, “What do you got for me now?” You know? And this, but he did the FoxO4. He, he, he knocked off, uh, uh, 20 minutes in a 10, in a, in a 10-mile run- Hmm

01:51:25:12 – 01:51:39:02
Guy Mezger
than he normally do. He goes, “Yeah, I couldn’t believe it. I was just, I just didn’t get tired.” Now, granted, he’s a freak of nature, you know? So I mean, not everybody’s gonna be like that. But that’s the result that comes from, from something like this. Now, that’s real energy. That’s a real result. You could take a ton of caffeine.

01:51:39:02 – 01:51:42:01
Guy Mezger
You’re not gonna, you’re not gonna knock off 20 minutes on a 10-mile run.

01:51:42:07 – 01:51:43:08
Boomer Cornwell
But you are gonna crash.

01:51:43:09 – 01:52:01:09
Guy Mezger
Yeah, you are gonna crash. You know? so, so that’s the difference. So, so yeah, so when they talk about it being i- mislabeled is, yeah, it’s not, it, it, it’s actually misidentified. ‘Cause people look at energy being caffeine. You know, it’s your ability to get s- actually get stuff, think things through. And so now the caf- caffeine has its places.

01:52:01:09 – 01:52:23:18
Guy Mezger
I’m a big fan of caffeine. It’s just that it’s, uh, you know, it’s not Caffeine gets villainized a little bit too much, but it’s, it, it’s good stuff. It just needs to be used properly just like anything else. And so things like that, like, you know So the big ones, like, that I was saying is, again, Ipamolane, CJC, uh, BPC. There’s another one called TB-500, which is good, similar to, uh, BPC.

01:52:23:22 – 01:52:32:23
Guy Mezger
That’s a really good one to do. Um, we have, uh, again, the, uh, FoxO4 for sentient stuff. there’s, I mean, there’s a ton of really good ones to compound.

01:52:33:00 – 01:52:34:08
Boomer Cornwell
And to, to- Yeah, I mean, it, it, I mean, this would be- Yeah.

01:52:34:10 – 01:52:36:02
Guy Mezger
I mean I mean there’s.

01:52:36:04 – 01:52:37:03
Boomer Cornwell
There’s, there’s honestly, there’s-

01:52:37:03 – 01:52:40:22
Guy Mezger
give you like 5 or 6. It’s like, “Oh, this one’s great, too, and this one’s great, too.”

01:52:40:24 – 01:53:08:20
Boomer Cornwell
I mean, there’s, there’s really not many we don’t have or can or can’t get our hands on. I mean, be, but, but again, to Guy’s point, is we actually know the science behind these things. We actually know why they work and why you should or should not be on them. I mean, if for, if for lack of a better term, just to put it very simplistically, what these peptides will do if used and, and, and, while monitored, but if used correctly and appropriately, is at 50 years old or 55 years old, you know, it’ll make your cells function as if they were 18, 19 years old again, right?

01:53:08:21 – 01:53:26:11
Boomer Cornwell
Yeah, mm-hmm. The way that we functioned at 18 years old, the way that we got over injury, we could, we could twist our knee or turn our ankle or something like that and we were fine in 2 or 3 days. Where now it’s like 2 or 3 weeks we can still feel. Be- because our bodies healed as perfectly as they were ever gonna heal from a natural standpoint occurred between the ages of 18 and 25 years old.

01:53:26:11 – 01:53:45:02
Boomer Cornwell
It’s not gonna occur at 55 years old anymore, right? So that’s what these things do. They go back in, and it, and it’s just a little, uh, to, to his point, it’s telling the cells what to do and how to function properly like they did in your earlier years, right? Now, it doesn’t last all that long, which is why we have to take them in some cases every day- Repeatedly some cases maybe once a week, whatever.

01:53:45:03 – 01:54:05:11
Boomer Cornwell
It depends on the product itself, right? Um, it’s a pheno- I said 10 years ago that peptides were gonna be the future of medicine. And I, and not only was I right we’re, we’re here now. And it’s, I think it’s actually been here longer than I’m even saying it has been. the future of medicine is now. Yeah, like I said, for s- I mean, it, it’s, it, I mean, these things have been- Yeah, it’s been studied overseas for a long time, right?

01:54:05:16 – 01:54:12:24
Boomer Cornwell
But it’s here. And, and we have access to g- to good ones. Good ones, not shady ones. Not gray market ones, not black market ones.

01:54:13:01 – 01:54:14:01
Guy Mezger
Pharmaceutical grade.

01:54:14:02 – 01:54:25:07
Boomer Cornwell
Pharmaceutical grade. You want it from a compounding pharmacy based in the US that is inspected by the FDA, inspected by the state licensing board. That’s what you want. You don’t want these things offline. I cannot tell you, you don’t want these things offline.

01:54:25:08 – 01:54:54:18
Guy Mezger
Yeah, man. I, I, a lot of people do, and, and, uh, y- you’re talking about a crap shoot, you know? You know, I mean, at worst, nothing’s gonna ha- happen. Or at best, nothing’s gonna happen. At best, yeah. You know? I mean, at best it works. But yeah, good luck. you know, next best is that doesn’t do any harm. And then, but the problem is, is that, you know, if these guys are willing to sell you false stuff and lie to your face like this you think they’re really gonna be, like, using a clean room to make this stuff?

01:54:54:19 – 01:55:12:22
Guy Mezger
Probably not. You know, and so you wanna be conscientious of that. you know, peptides, you know, th- you know, it’s, it’s really a great education process. Again, like, a big thing, problem with, like, the CJC and stuff like this is that people go, “I’m gonna take that to raise my testosterone.” Well, it could. Not a real efficient way to do that.

01:55:12:23 – 01:55:35:11
Guy Mezger
I mean, you know, there’s other medications that that’s the job. And then they go, “Well, I don’t wanna get on” Why? ‘Cause they don’t know. You know, they don’t know any better. You know, their friend told them something like this. And, you know, um, and so, you know And, and sometimes I get a little frustrated with even with the, the medical field, because, you know, a lot of these guys, they don’t continue to educate themselves you know, on the thing.

01:55:35:11 – 01:55:52:20
Guy Mezger
And so the problem that we deal with is, you know, um, 349 being a succep- a Okay, so this is, this is the big quandary that we’ll have, okay? So they’ll look, the, the, the, uh, uh, the, the board that handles, um, um, the n- the national organization for, I don’t know the name of it, but for endocrinol- endocrinology, okay?

01:55:52:22 – 01:55:56:08
Guy Mezger
The board that handles.

01:55:56:10 – 01:56:30:19
Guy Mezger
Oh, yeah. They, they go 349-To 1,200 is the testosterone range. Okay? And they endorse that. Now, the AMA, They’re not even doctors anymore, okay? They’re just a bunch of lawyers. I mean, a bunch of, uh, politicians, okay? You know, and even they admit, through science, that n- having a serum testosterone level lower than 500, you have a 35% higher chance of having a heart attack or stroke.

01:56:30:21 – 01:56:47:23
Guy Mezger
Okay? So why 500 is not the minimum when even guys who aren’t doctors anymore- are willing to go, “This is what it needs to be.” You know? I’m, like, going, I, I literally th- w- run my head into the wall, your brick wall over there because how stupid can we be? But this is what we deal with.

01:56:47:24 – 01:57:04:09
Guy Mezger
I know. We deal with this information, misinformation, and that’s from the medical world. Even though scientifically they argue with each other all the time. I mean, urologists will argue with endocrinologists about this all the time. I mean, you wanna hear funny stories. Like, “Oh, yeah, I talked to him about the” Uh, whatever, right? You know what I mean?

01:57:04:10 – 01:57:22:22
Guy Mezger
I, I get it. It’s, it’s funny. Well, not funny. It’s pathetic, actually. But the, but the sad part is, is, like, you need to have, you know, the, understand the education level. You need to understand what, what’s going on, and that’s really what we do. And that’s really what I do. I tell people all the time, it’s like the difference between a lot, a lot of these guys is that when you were going, when Let’s say you were a doctor. You went through medical. You, you actually had to go through, you had to learn how to do stitches.

01:57:22:23 – 01:57:37:19
Guy Mezger
You learned how to do, how to know, diagnose a cold, all this other stuff like this. I didn’t do that. You know what I did? I worked on metabolic function. That’s all I did. That’s, that was my PhD was in dealing with that. That’s all I worked on, okay? I did not work on how to c- fix the common cold.

01:57:37:19 – 01:57:50:02
Guy Mezger
Do I know how to fix the common cold? Yeah, because I’m a naturopathic doctor too, and we do that. Right? But that’s not really my specialty. Right? You don’t come to me for the cold. You don’t come to me for a broken arm. You don’t come to me because you know this. You come to me so you don’t get a broken arm.

01:57:50:08 – 01:57:55:00
Guy Mezger
Because I’m gonna make your bone density stronger through, through, through, through, you know, whatever it is, you know? Well, that’s what we do at Dynamis, man.

01:57:55:01 – 01:58:14:06
Boomer Cornwell
Yes. So we, we are about preventative medicine, okay? The, the, this whole society for the last Well, since Rockefeller did it, man, we- Yes we have been, we have been e- e- conditioned to, to treat sick medicine. Wait till the condition happens, wait till you get sick, then go treat it with something after that, right? We have the exact opposite mindset.

01:58:14:07 – 01:58:28:02
Boomer Cornwell
Well, a- and it should be. But we have the exact opposite mindset at Dynamis, is don’t get sick, okay? We’re not We don’t treat sick medicine, because we don’t want our patients to get sick. Come to us so you don’t get sick. Sick. Come to us to, so that you don’t get that disease, right?

01:58:28:03 – 01:58:43:17
Boomer Cornwell
It’s a big part of what we do. It’s a very famous part of what we do, and we do it well. We do it better than anybody else. But we treat wholly a- and completely the entire person. Each person is different. And we do it preventatively so that you don’t get sick. Come to us so you don’t We’re not interested in cough and cold, man.

01:58:43:18 – 01:58:53:24
Boomer Cornwell
W- w- w- w- yeah. We, we want you, we want you disease-free. Um, and we want you healthy. We want you living a long time. And, and we want you living a really, really active and healthy lifestyle, a holistic lifestyle. So that’s, that’s what we do.

01:58:54:00 – 01:59:11:13
Brandon Adams
Well, tell me this too. Let’s say I’m, uh, just anybody that walks in the room. I got time for this, August? Let’s say I’m just anybody that walks in the room, and I feel, I feel like I, I need to make a step into peptides ’cause I’ve heard it, I’ve seen it online. I’ve My people talked about it or whatever. What about you guys do I sign up with, and how do I do that?

01:59:11:19 – 01:59:16:24
Brandon Adams
And, and what makes you different than other people?

01:59:17:01 – 01:59:18:21
Boomer Cornwell
So how, how would you get started with us, you’re saying?

01:59:18:22 – 01:59:22:09
Brandon Adams
How would you get started, and then what’s the process as you go through? And then why are you guys different?

01:59:22:09 – 01:59:37:18
Boomer Cornwell
So, uh, okay. So one of the, one of the very first ways that we’re different, I’ll d- I’ll address that first, is we I, I have created a business model where the barrier to entry is, is virtually nothing, okay? We make it very easy. We don’t collect money from you up front. We’re not asking for you to pay anything up front, okay?

01:59:37:19 – 01:59:56:04
Boomer Cornwell
We, we, we charge for coaching programs, right? But that, that’s on the back side after you’ve al- after you’ve gotten integrated with one of our health coaches, one of our providers. Then we’ll start talking about cost then. You go to our website. It’s dynamisonline.com. You could click Well, there’s a lot of buttons you could click, but if you wanted to start learning about it, click

01:59:56:04 – 02:00:11:00
Boomer Cornwell
There’s a, there’s book an appointment with Uh, or it’s, it’s actually called book, book a kickoff call. Um, and you’ll actually be put in touch with, with one of our health coaches that will explain the process to you, explain what we do. This is a free call. I mean, we don’t charge anything.

02:00:11:00 – 02:00:28:13
Boomer Cornwell
You’re, y- you spend your time. That’s it. Um, if you wanna get signed up, then we’ll get you signed up right then and there. If you need labs, we’ll get a lab order out for you. We use, we can use any lab that you wanna use. It doesn’t matter. We’re agnostic to that. We just want you to come over here and start getting some good information, because odds are you’ve gotten some bad information.

02:00:28:13 – 02:00:47:12
Boomer Cornwell
So we make it really easy to sign up. There’s no barrier to entry. No other company can really say that. I mean, any other company you go to, they’re gonna want hundreds of dollars up front for a lab. They’re gonna want hundreds of dollars up front for a provider visit. You know, you’re, you’re $600 or $700 into it before you’ve even spoken to a provider or talked about a single symptom or looked at a single lab result.

02:00:47:17 – 02:01:07:09
Boomer Cornwell
We, we don’t do any of that. We’ve collected nothing from you until you get to that appointment. Right? And w- and we’re gonna spend at least 20 minutes with you, too, in that co in that first initial coaching call, sometimes longer depending upon, uh- It depends on what the issue is, yeah what type of patient we have. Sometimes Guy will get involved, and we’ll turn a 20 or 30-minute phone call into an hour-long session if that’s what he has to do.

02:01:07:09 – 02:01:24:07
Boomer Cornwell
Because that’s what we do for our people. We really and truly do wanna help people because I, I believe that we do have a, there’s this, a segment of the population that, that really needs and wants that educational piece, but there’s also that same segment who has been given bad information and bad education and bad treatment, and I would say malpractice.

02:01:24:10 – 02:01:38:24
Boomer Cornwell
There’s a lot of that going on, and that’s one of the things that’s probably the primary thing that we try to address. So- Yeah. I know you go online. You, you, you book a call. Or if you know you wanna get signed up, you can also get signed up right there online, too. We send you the lab result. You’ll have a 20-minute provider phone call.

02:01:39:00 – 02:01:54:18
Boomer Cornwell
You’ll, they’ll determine, uh, what type of program you wanna go with. Are you a weight loss uh, patient? Are you a hormone patient? Are you, you know, a, a thyroid patient? Are you a peptide patient? Whatever. We treat all of it. Right? And then at that point, you The, the cool thing about how we work is you do- you don’t go with anything you don’t agree with, right?

02:01:54:19 – 02:02:09:10
Boomer Cornwell
Now, the provider may say, “I want you on these programs.” And you may decide to go with it, but you can al- you can tweak it. You can, you can add and take away, you know, with provider approval, whatever you w- You can make your program your own. We’re not w- we’re, we’re not a cookie cutter. Guy talked about that earlier.

02:02:09:11 – 02:02:16:18
Boomer Cornwell
Right? We’re not gonna just give you the same 3 products like 90% of these wellness clinics are gonna do. We really and truly do tailor it to you.

02:02:16:20 – 02:02:40:05
Guy Mezger
Plus, what we wanna do, too, and, and I think this is a little different with a lot of stuff, is that, you know, there’s certain baselines that we wanna work with. Like, you know, okay, a, a big deal, a big deal with women, which is, sounds funny, is that actually low testosterone. Now women don’t need much testosterone, you know? I- but they need it. Uh, and, and so th- they, they start losing their testosterone, ma- usually because they’re not working out and things like that, but they start doing that, and then they start putting on weight.

02:02:40:07 – 02:02:58:15
Guy Mezger
That’s what happens. So they immediately wanna go to, into a GLP-1, right? You know what I mean? And then we’re looking at them, and we’re like, “Okay, that’s probably not a bad sugg-” Depending on where they are weight-wise, right?

02:02:58:16 – 02:03:22:07
Guy Mezger
You know, depending, like, if they’re really Okay, yeah. No, listen. But let’s say they’re, let’s say that, let’s say that they’re 15, 20 pounds overweight, but their testosterone’s in the tank. We’ll go, “Hey, listen. Instead of doing that, let’s put you on some testosterone or a medication that raises your testosterone,” whatever it is. Because that will I said, “First of all, if we put you on a GPL, it’ll work so much better.” All right?

02:03:22:08 – 02:03:50:22
Guy Mezger
Like, night and day difference. ‘Cause you can be on a GPL, and you don’t ta- and your testosterone’s low all you’re gonna lose mostly is muscle. All right? And so the fact is, is like, you know, what we wanna do is w- we wanna get you base as, you know. So like, uh, like, one of the things is that we re- seriously personalize it. Like, an issue, like the example I’m using, it’s like, “Hey, let’s put you on a testosterone, uh, or something to raise your testosterone,” depending on what we feel like you need. And go, “Let’s get that up to a, a, a good level, okay?

02:03:50:23 – 02:04:15:13
Guy Mezger
And let, that’ll take about 3 months.” All right? And then from there, Then let’s make a more educated decision if you really need to be on GPL, because in that 3 months, did you lose weight?” “Okay, yeah, I lost about 3 or 4 pounds.” “Well, we only need to lose about, you know, 15, 20 pounds. You could probably d- you know, do that with just a little bit of exercise instead of-” Mm-hmm “doing the GLP-1.” Or we’ll go, “Hey, you know, you’re a little bit heavier on this, let’s put you on GLP-1.”

02:04:15:18 – 02:04:34:05
Guy Mezger
But now we understand how that’s actually gonna work better to preserve that muscle. And of course we, you know, the, the pr- again, the problem with most GLP-1s is that the doctors don’t tell them, “Oh yeah, you need to work out.” ‘Cause keeping muscle, you know, especially on a diet restriction, is hard. Oh, yeah. ‘Cause your body, in order to do- Your body- Choose Y- your, yeah, your body, it’s a pain in the butt 02:04:34:05 – 02:04:53:13
Guy Mezger
to produce muscle. It’s a pain in the butt to produce the chemicals to make the muscles- Especially as you get older like this. And so what ends up happening is you us- th- th- th, you know, they- what they’re doing is they’re using these GLP-1s. And so the big thing, the problem with GLP-1s is, 1, it messes with your thyroid. , it me- obviously messes with your, with your, with your, your, your hunger, so you, you gotta make sure you’re eating good.

02:04:53:13 – 02:05:13:19
Guy Mezger
All right? , there’s no stimulus to save that muscle if you don’t work out, so you need to have something for your thyroid, something for your digestion, because the digestion slows down, so you gotta make sure that you don’t get your lower intestine clogged up. Um, you need to have, uh, essential amino acids because all protein breaks down to amino acids. Your non-essential amino acids, that’s just, um, those of you guys that don’t know, 9 amino acids are the amino acids you have to bring in from food.

02:05:13:19 – 02:05:31:17
Guy Mezger
Those are essential, okay? You can’t get them any other way but through food or supplementation. All right? Now, non-essential are, are ones that your body makes itself, usually through other aminos or enzymes. Okay, so you need those, okay?

02:05:31:18 – 02:05:53:11
Guy Mezger
So what happens is you take those essential amino acids. Why? ‘Cause it feeds the muscle directly. There’s no, there’s no calories or anything but it helps preserve that muscle. Working out preserves the muscle. The, you know, the, the, uh, the, the, um, essential amino acids help save that muscle. The, you know, you get something for your thyroid. Again, ’cause again, if you mess your thyroid up, you can do all the GPLs you want, you’re not gonna lose weight.

02:05:53:11 – 02:06:09:10
Guy Mezger
Not a good thing, right. All right? So you need to keep that going like this. And so there’s things that, that they do that they do not tell you, the doctors generally don’t tell you to do. But we insist, like, “Hey, if you’re doing a GPL, any kind of GLP-1 like this, you need to have these.” Because it’s gonna re-Well, or, or to your point, let- let’s look at your thyroid and hormones first.

02:06:09:12 – 02:06:11:24
Boomer Cornwell
Or to your point, let’s look at your thyroid hormone first.

02:06:12:00 – 02:06:33:03
Guy Mezger
You know? And we always look Yeah, we always look at the markers first. So we look at your hormones. And, and, and believe it or not, your thyroid, actually hormone-based it’s just whatever it call. You know, when they, peop people think hormones, they think estrogen, they think progesterone, they think testosterone. But, you know, TSH is a hormone. It’s your thyroid-stimulating hormone. There’s, um, other ones too. There’s, uh, your T3 and T4.

02:06:33:03 – 02:06:53:21
Guy Mezger
But the so these are all very important things that you do. And again, so yeah, you, you What we wanna do is we go through the checklist first. You know, because we go, okay, so it may be just like, hey, again, uh, if your thyroid’s a little sluggish, uh, you’re gonna have weight gain issues. All right? Y- you know? So, boom. A little testosterone maybe, a little bit of, uh, you know, thyroid medicine, or maybe it’s not that bad.

02:06:53:23 – 02:07:12:05
Guy Mezger
You can do the thyroid supplement. But it depends on, you know, again, that’s why you go to our practitioners, because they’re- really good at that. They’ll be able to make a judgment and go, “Yeah, we probably could just use a supplement.” Or, “Yeah, that’s probably in the tank. We probably wanna give you a few mics of, uh, Armour Thyroid-” Mm-hmm or something, which is a, which is a, uh, really good, um, thyroid medication.

02:07:12:09 – 02:07:25:22
Guy Mezger
And so, um, you know, so it’s things like that, that you wanna be, be able to do. And, and so that, that, you know, that’s, you know, that’s the difference is that we’re not gonna, we’re not gonna pile this stuff on you. We’re gonna know- we’re gonna put the stuff together that’s gonna work, okay? This makes sense.

02:07:26:03 – 02:07:45:02
Guy Mezger
You know, and sometimes making sense is, hey, we’re just gonna correct your hormones and let’s see where that goes from there. Now, oftentimes you wanna have you know, you want some combination of things. And that’s easily done. Like your, if your thyroid’s low, I mean, if your TSA, TSS, TS- TSH is high, that means your thyroid’s not working well.

02:07:45:03 – 02:08:06:01
Guy Mezger
And, and if your testosterone’s low, well, those should both be corrected at the same time. We shouldn’t do one then the other. Those both need to be corrected at the same time. Right? You know what I mean? Things like that. And then we’re like, “All right, so if you wanna do that,” you know. So, so what we wanna do is, like, the thing is that we, we wanna do is, is, for lack of better terms, we’re chefs and we’re creating a masterpiece meal.

02:08:06:03 – 02:08:34:14
Guy Mezger
If you put too much salt or you put too many spices, it ruins the food sometimes. Right? You know what I mean? So we don’t wanna do that. We wanna add it as, as needed. And, you know, and that, and, and I just think it’s more ethical based- Yeah, 100% uh, uh, medicine. You know? And it’s just stuff because, again, um, you know, uh, there’s, my opinion, not so much the doctors as is the pharmaceutical end Uh, just they’re promoting stuff that I think is, they’re over promoting things. Sure they are.

02:08:34:16 – 02:08:35:12
Boomer Cornwell
You know? They just wanna sell a product.

02:08:35:14 – 02:08:44:12
Guy Mezger
Just because they wanna sell a product. They just wanna sell a product. Is it, is it beneficial for you or not? Is it harmful to you or not? I don’t I’ll be honest, I don’t believe they have your best intentions at heart.

02:08:44:16 – 02:08:45:14
Boomer Cornwell
Absolutely do not.

02:08:45:15 – 02:09:03:01
Brandon Adams
Well, fear and FOMO is what everyone kind of leans on for, for a lot of marketing plans and trying to get people to, to buy stuff. I mean, it’s, it’s all about getting the dollar for a lot of people, but I’ll just say this, like, I’ve really learned a lot in this, in this episode, and I’d actually love to have you guys on again- Love to and not have to worry about the beginning story as we go through this.

02:09:03:01 – 02:09:04:13
Brandon Adams
Now you guys are kind of in this.

02:09:04:14 – 02:09:05:22
Guy Mezger
We can just- I’ll just tell funny foot stories.

02:09:05:23 – 02:09:08:14
Brandon Adams
Let’s just jump into it going forward and start talking about spe- We, we’ll spend 5 minutes doing that

02:09:08:16 – 02:09:09:01
Guy Mezger
Five minutes.

02:09:09:01 – 02:09:16:15
Brandon Adams
we’ll attack, we’ll attack, you know, different, different products, you know? And it’d be kind of cool to kind of get you guys to be able to talk about these things are good and these things are whatever.

02:09:16:16 – 02:09:42:15
Guy Mezger
But- Listen, especially, like, you, you showed an interest in the peptide medicine. The, the, they I, I mean, they’re, they’re evolving every time I turn around. There’s something You know, the only problem that we face with it is, is the research gonna be able to keep up with the innovation. And, you know, and the problem with peptides is that peptides are You can’t, you can’t, um, you can’t patent.

02:09:42:17 – 02:10:03:08
Guy Mezger
And so it, it doesn’t behoove the big money to do a lot of testing on them. Because that’s why most of it comes from Europe. The one advantage of socialized medicine, ’cause everybody in Europe has socialized medicine, and despite the, “Oh, my God, people die,” and that, they, they don’t. I’ve been over there. I’ve lived over there. No, they don’t.

02:10:03:09 – 02:10:26:12
Guy Mezger
They have great medicine. In fact, they’re very Th- they, they drive most of the innovation. They don’t, we don’t hear about it. Why? Because the government has to pay for their health. So literally things like gym memberships are tax deductible. You know? Why? Because nobody wants, you know, fat, sick people if you’re paying for their medicine, you know to heal. No, they encourage you to be, work like this.

02:10:26:14 – 02:10:41:20
Guy Mezger
And they’re very innovative, and they do a lot of these studies in their Why? Because what they’re trying to do is keep people off of going to see the doctor because they’re paying for it. So it kinda makes sense. So it’s just the opposite here. We don’t mind keeping people sick, ’cause we make money off sick people. That’s right.

02:10:41:21 – 02:10:58:12
Guy Mezger
There, they lose money off sick people, so they’re trying to keep people healthier, and they’re doing a good job. The average European outlives us by four and a half years. And just so you know, 50% of their popu- Is it, is it Something like that. Something close to 50% of the population smoke. Oh, yeah. And they’re still outliving us. And they’re still healthier than us, right?

02:10:58:13 – 02:11:28:17
Guy Mezger
So they’re doing something right. And so th- th- that’s where we get a lot of our in- good, good information from, and stuff like that, so, you know, you know, from the, the study aspect of stuff. And so, you know, what we’re doing, like I said, we, we, we do our very, very best to, to s- like I do, ’cause that’s my job, is stay up on as much of that information as we can and, and, and do this and, and, and be able to, you know, get in there and, and look in Like, you know, like one of the best anti-aging, uh, peptides came from Russia back in the ’50s.

02:11:28:19 – 02:11:31:00
Guy Mezger
And we didn’t know about it.

02:11:31:01 – 02:11:32:09
Boomer Cornwell
It just got better from there, man.

02:11:32:10 – 02:11:42:21
Guy Mezger
We didn’t know about it. Hardly anybody knows about it until, you know, it broke out into Europe, and now everyone in Europe takes it. And you’ll be taking it soon, as soon as you finish up your cycle, uh- Well, the g- yeah.

02:11:42:23 – 02:11:59:21
Boomer Cornwell
Well, the good thing is, I know we gotta wrap, but I mean, uh, the good thing I’ll say, and not to make this political, I will say, though, praise God we finally have some leadership now that’s pulling the handcuffs off these peptides. You know? And, and we’re They’re, they’re The ban is being taken away on several of them, and, and there’s It’s gonna it’s gonna come in batches.

02:11:59:22 – 02:12:12:00
Boomer Cornwell
We’re not gonna get it all in one fell swoop. I mean, the floodgates are gonna open now, and we’re gonna see even more of these things coming out. We’re not gonna see less, we’re gonna see more of it finally. This is what we were This is what we’ve been waiting 15 years for. R- real medicine.

02:12:12:01 – 02:12:12:23
Boomer Cornwell
Yeah, real.

02:12:13:00 – 02:12:16:23
Guy Mezger
That’s exactly right. ‘Cause it’s your body fixing itself. That’s right.

02:12:17:00 – 02:12:45:02
Brandon Adams
Well, Boomer, guy, I’m not gonna call you Sandman anymore. I like, I like this version better. Um, you know, if you guys are a potential client for them, reach out, call these guys, ask questions. Let them inform you on what it is you want, you know? And, and let them Whether you wanna go into weight loss, or you wanna go into peptides, or, or whatever it is, like, just call and ask, and they’ll tell you what’s right and what’s wrong.

02:12:45:02 – 02:12:47:13
Brandon Adams
I mean, it costs you nothing, so I think that’s a really cool thing.

02:12:47:14 – 02:13:01:02
Guy Mezger
Well, I’ll tell you something. One thing is, too, is that we also are not afraid to share what we don’t know. And if you come up here with a question, I, I will find the answer. That’s right. You know what I mean? That’s the one thing that I’m good at, you know? I have connections in some of the most I, I’m very fortunate.

02:13:01:02 – 02:13:16:17
Guy Mezger
The one thing about being an ex-fighter and now a doctor, it interests a lot of guys why I did that. So I get, have, have, have the access to a lot of doctors. Most people don’t. So I’m leading guys. So I get to ask these guys questions, you know, to answer stuff that, that I don’t know. And I’m willing to say, “Hey, I don’t know, but I’ll find the answer for you.”

02:13:16:18 – 02:13:25:13
Guy Mezger
And that’s what we wanna do, and that’s what we promise you guys. We will do our very, very best- Oh, yeah to get, you know, to, to, to be your, you know, go-to health people.

02:13:25:15 – 02:13:25:24
Boomer Cornwell
Amen.

02:13:26:00 – 02:13:34:10
Brandon Adams
Boomer. Guys. Yes, sir. Until next time, guys, dynamisonline.com. That’s the blueprint.